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Old July 18th 08, 06:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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This question was brought up in another group and never answered.

Assume you are flying off the coast of Hawaii and can see an aircraft
carrier group in the distance. Is there an airspace classification around
it? What's to keep you from buzzing it at 1,000 feet (other than a couple
of Phalanx shooting at you :- )


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Old July 18th 08, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dallas" wrote in message
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This question was brought up in another group and never answered.

Assume you are flying off the coast of Hawaii and can see an aircraft
carrier group in the distance. Is there an airspace classification around
it? What's to keep you from buzzing it at 1,000 feet (other than a couple
of Phalanx shooting at you :- )


You will be called and warned off of the radio, if that does not get it,
you will be intercepted, if that doesn't get it, you will be filled with hot
lead, or tungsten, or whatever stuff they make hot these days.

I still think declaring an emergency and landing on a carrier would be worth
the hassle. Maybe! g
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Jim in NC


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Old July 18th 08, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 18, 2:13*pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Dallas" wrote in message

...

This question was brought up in another group and never answered.


Assume you are flying off the coast of Hawaii and can see an aircraft
carrier group in the distance. *Is there an airspace classification around
it? *What's to keep you from buzzing it at 1,000 feet (other than a couple
of Phalanx shooting at you :- )


*You will be called and warned off of the radio, if that does not get it,
you will be intercepted, if that doesn't get it, you will be filled with hot
lead, or tungsten, or whatever stuff they make hot these days.

I still think declaring an emergency and landing on a carrier would be worth
the hassle. *Maybe! g
--
Jim in NC


That pretty much happened off 'Nam, didn't it, on the Midway? Guy was
bringing his family out during the evacuation of Saigon. Remember the
pictures of 'copters being pushed over the side? That was to make
room so the little bird dog of an airplane could land. He landed
safely, btw,
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Old July 18th 08, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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Default Aircraft Carrier and airspace?

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:13:15 -0400, Morgans wrote:

You will be called and warned off of the radio


Yeah, but on what frequency? Chances are they have no idea what frequency
you're on.

My guess is that an aircraft carrier is considered a towered airport...
but how would you know their frequency to make contact? Maybe it's a
portable MOA or restricted airspace. I've never seen anything in the FARs.


Maybe it's "nothing"... after all just a few months ago a pair of Russian
TU-95 Bear bombers overflew the USS Nimitz. One of them flew directly over
the Nimitz at 2000 feet and no one shot them down.

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/u...-fighter-jets/


I still think declaring an emergency and landing on a carrier would be worth
the hassle. Maybe! g


Just don't catch the wire with the nose strut... you'd look funny upside
down... :- )


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Old July 18th 08, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dallas wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:13:15 -0400, Morgans wrote:

You will be called and warned off of the radio


Yeah, but on what frequency? Chances are they have no idea what frequency
you're on.


121.5



My guess is that an aircraft carrier is considered a towered airport...
but how would you know their frequency to make contact? Maybe it's a
portable MOA or restricted airspace. I've never seen anything in the FARs.


Here's the problem you are looking at from a legal standpoint and
wanting to add a legal tag to it. They aren't. They would be looking at
you as a threat.



Maybe it's "nothing"... after all just a few months ago a pair of Russian
TU-95 Bear bombers overflew the USS Nimitz. One of them flew directly over
the Nimitz at 2000 feet and no one shot them down.


And just how many weapons do you think were tracking that Bear the whole
time?
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Old July 19th 08, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

Here's the problem you are looking at from a legal standpoint and
wanting to add a legal tag to it. They aren't. They would be looking at
you as a threat.


CARRIER DESTROYS DEADLY CESSNA IN MILITARY-FAMILY CONFLICT

Yes, that makes a really good headline.

And just how many weapons do you think were tracking that Bear the whole
time?


Tracking is routine, shooting is not.
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Old July 19th 08, 06:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601Xl Builder writes:


Here's the problem you are looking at from a legal standpoint and
wanting to add a legal tag to it. They aren't. They would be looking at
you as a threat.


CARRIER DESTROYS DEADLY CESSNA IN MILITARY-FAMILY CONFLICT


Babbling, inane nonsense.

And just how many weapons do you think were tracking that Bear the whole
time?


Tracking is routine, shooting is not.


How would you have any clue what goes on in the military from down deep
in your bunker?

You haven't a clue how real military engagements work, or to put it more
concisely, you don't know **** from shinola about the military or
anything else in the real world.


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Jim Pennino

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Old July 19th 08, 08:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

Here's the problem you are looking at from a legal standpoint and
wanting to add a legal tag to it. They aren't. They would be looking
at you as a threat.


CARRIER DESTROYS DEADLY CESSNA IN MILITARY-FAMILY CONFLICT

Yes, that makes a really good headline.

And just how many weapons do you think were tracking that Bear the
whole time?


Tracking is routine, shooting is not.


Anthony, you're a ****ing moron. Go stick your head back up your ass.
That is something which will benefit mankind.

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Old July 25th 08, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave S
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Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:



Maybe it's "nothing"... after all just a few months ago a pair of
Russian
TU-95 Bear bombers overflew the USS Nimitz. One of them flew directly
over
the Nimitz at 2000 feet and no one shot them down.


And just how many weapons do you think were tracking that Bear the whole
time?


Nobodys gonna blink twice if they splash an airplane from the united
states of Cessna...

Keep in mind that while the bear was overflying our fleet, we'd been
flying nuclear armed bombers just outside their territorial limits for
years.. and until they had developed SAMs that could reach, we'd
violated and overflown their airspace with impunity for years. It was a
game with a KNOWN adversary.

A plane approaching that doesn't respond and is unidentified will be
making a bad gamble. Remember the Vincennes?
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Old July 19th 08, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:42:46 -0500, Dallas
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:13:15 -0400, Morgans wrote:

You will be called and warned off of the radio


Yeah, but on what frequency? Chances are they have no idea what frequency
you're on.


you dont fly much do you?

Stealth Pilot




 




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