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, " wrote: Perhaps not. *But, at least it's been validated as airworthy. Since when is software validated as airworthy? Can you show me what the FAA standards are to make it "airworthy? Software itself isn't really certified. The FAA certifies the hardware and software together. But RTCA DO-178B documents software considerations for certification of software. DO-200A and DO-201A contain standards, if you will, for data/databases used in avionics. Note that these RTCA documents are not available for free. |
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On Oct 23, 12:29*am, Bob Noel wrote:
In article , " wrote: Perhaps not. *But, at least it's been validated as airworthy. Since when is software validated as airworthy? Can you show me what the FAA standards are to make it "airworthy? Software itself isn't really certified. *The FAA certifies the hardware and software together. But RTCA DO-178B documents software considerations for certification of software. *DO-200A and DO-201A contain standards, if you will, for data/databases used in avionics. Note that these RTCA documents are not available for free. Ah, thanks Bob. What you bring out makes sense for the software installed in IFR certified panel mounted GPS's. But Sam was referring to computer based software in the beginning of this "sub thread" (for lack of a better term) about the Aviation Trip Pack program (ATP) not being validated as "airworthy". I don't think there are any computer based "FAA approved software". I know of references for FAA approved flight briefing sites, but no reference to the software in itself. ATP reaches out to DUAT for the briefing which makes my briefing through that software legal from what I understand, but the software itself does not have a FAA stamp of approval. Same for Golden Eagle software that accesses duats.com website. Hope this makes sense! |
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On Oct 23, 7:00*pm, brian whatcott wrote:
wrote: I don't think there are any computer based "FAA approved software". I AM nit-picking here, no more.... The FAA offers for download to the people who need it, a PC application which will compute the spherical geometry for the distance and angle between two lat/lon coordinate pairs, or location of a point at a given distance and bearing from a given lat/lon etc., etc. If you need a standard computation for navaid siting etc., this is it. Ahh, appreciate this kind of nit pick and distinction. I never knew this, and probably 99.95 percent of the IFR rated pilot population are not aware of this. I was pretty much talking about the generic public domain software such as ATP, Golden Eagle, AOPA flight planner (before they went to web based) that interacted with whatever FAA website that provides the approach charts. Sounds to me the software you describe though wouldn't be used for "just downloading approach charts", am I correct in this assumption? |
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"Peter" wrote in message ... Jeppesen have a captive market in all the commercial operators who fly with Jepp charts. Captive means there's no alternative. Commercial operators have alternatives (NACO) but don't avail themselves of that option. Why? |
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"Peter" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote: "Peter" wrote in message . .. Jeppesen have a captive market in all the commercial operators who fly with Jepp charts. Captive means there's no alternative. Commercial operators have alternatives (NACO) but don't avail themselves of that option. Why? NACO does USA only. There is a world outside the USA (if only a very small and insignificant one I must admit ). Correct....sorta. Now, considering that only a tiny fraction of airlines and commercial operators operate outside US borders, explain why the purely domestic operators don't just go with the virtually free NACO option. |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message Captive means there's no alternative. Commercial operators have alternatives (NACO) but don't avail themselves of that option. Why? NACO does USA only. There is a world outside the USA (if only a very small and insignificant one I must admit ). Correct....sorta. Now, considering that only a tiny fraction of airlines and commercial operators operate outside US borders, explain why the purely domestic operators don't just go with the virtually free NACO option. Another reason is that some airlines get a customized version of the charts from Jeppesen with the company's own routes and procedures included, that are not part of the normal published set. Mike |
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"Mike Adams" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote: "Peter" wrote in message Captive means there's no alternative. Commercial operators have alternatives (NACO) but don't avail themselves of that option. Why? NACO does USA only. There is a world outside the USA (if only a very small and insignificant one I must admit ). Correct....sorta. Now, considering that only a tiny fraction of airlines and commercial operators operate outside US borders, explain why the purely domestic operators don't just go with the virtually free NACO option. Another reason is that some airlines get a customized version of the charts from Jeppesen with the company's own routes and procedures included, that are not part of the normal published set. Yup! |
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"Peter" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote NACO does USA only. There is a world outside the USA (if only a very small and insignificant one I must admit ). Correct....sorta. Now, considering that only a tiny fraction of airlines and commercial operators operate outside US borders That is an amazing statement. Fact. |
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