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see? it is only a matter of definition.
sure, this is really extrem, but the point remains.

No it isn't a matter of definition...its murder!

So you must also say that the death penalty is murder (no matter what you
achieve with it).

Nope, abortion and euthanasia are issues of convenience. A life is taken to
make someone elses life easier...that is murder. The death penalty is
punishment..you kill, you will be killed. period.


hm. and what is with murder while defending myself? is this murder, too?
or
what is that?

No...again I never said self defense is murder. Any and everyone should
have the right to defend themselves by all available means, including
killing their attacker.