Pilot's Political Orientation

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see? it is only a matter of definition.
sure, this is really extrem, but the point remains.

No it isn't a matter of definition...its murder!

So you must also say that the death penalty is murder (no matter what you
achieve with it).

Nope, abortion and euthanasia are issues of convenience. A life is taken to
make someone elses life easier...that is murder. The death penalty is
punishment..you kill, you will be killed. period.


hm. and what is with murder while defending myself? is this murder, too?
or
what is that?

No...again I never said self defense is murder. Any and everyone should
have the right to defend themselves by all available means, including
killing their attacker.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:36:49 -0500, Joe Young wrote:

see? it is only a matter of definition.
sure, this is really extrem, but the point remains.

No it isn't a matter of definition...its murder!

So you must also say that the death penalty is murder (no matter what you
achieve with it).

Nope, abortion and euthanasia are issues of convenience. A life is taken to
make someone elses life easier...that is murder. The death penalty is
punishment..you kill, you will be killed. period.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you define (see above: it is all a matter of definition) the death penalty
as punishment. fine. I define it as murder. It is a convenient (?) way to
get rid of the persons that do not fit into the scheme. See? your own
words, just with another topic.

#m

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If John and Peter get together and take money from Paul at gunpoint,
we call it armed robbery. If two thousand voters get together
and decide to take money from another thousand, we call it taxation.
C J Campbell in rec.aviation.piloting

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:36:49 -0500, Joe Young wrote:

see? it is only a matter of definition.
sure, this is really extrem, but the point remains.

No it isn't a matter of definition...its murder!

So you must also say that the death penalty is murder (no matter what
you
achieve with it).

Nope, abortion and euthanasia are issues of convenience. A life is taken
to
make someone elses life easier...that is murder. The death penalty is
punishment..you kill, you will be killed. period.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you define (see above: it is all a matter of definition) the death penalty
as punishment. fine. I define it as murder. It is a convenient (?) way to
get rid of the persons that do not fit into the scheme. See? your own
words, just with another topic.


You know...your right...it is a matter of definition. Now let's see if we
can settle on a definition for abortion.... Should we use:

Murder....
Infanticide....
Baby killing...
I-don't-want-to-screw-up-my-life-so-I-am-going-to-kill-my-baby.............

allowing for the rape, incest and health of the mother exceptions, what do
you suppose is the reason behind the other 1.4 million abortions performed
in the US each year....

enough of this...lets get back to aviation....

Joe Young wrote:


You know...your right...it is a matter of definition. Now let's see if we
can settle on a definition for abortion.... Should we use:

Murder....
Infanticide....
Baby killing...
I-don't-want-to-screw-up-my-life-so-I-am-going-to-kill-my-baby.............

allowing for the rape, incest and health of the mother exceptions, what do
you suppose is the reason behind the other 1.4 million abortions performed
in the US each year....

Except for pregnancies terminated for valid medical reasons (health of
the mother,
severe fetal deformity, etc), the basic cause of any abortion is an
unwanted pregnancy.
You prevent that pregnancy, you prevent that abortion. Waiting until
after the pregnancy
has occured is too late - all you can do at that point is try to stop
the abortion from taking
place, you've lost your chance to prevent it.

Rich Lemert


enough of this...lets get back to aviation....

Joe Young wrote:


allowing for the rape, incest and health of the mother exceptions, what do
you suppose is the reason behind the other 1.4 million abortions performed
in the US each year....


Out of curiosity, why would you permit murder (by your definition) merely
because a parent was raped or indulged in incest?

If a parent was raped or indulged in incest, should a ten-year old child be
terminated?

- Andrew