Yep. That's why the "kind of" like Class B description. File VFR on 122.3
or the cell on the way to the airport, then call Approach.

"John Clonts" wrote in message
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"Dan Thompson" wrote in message
om...
It's bad, but not that bad. You can penetrate the Crawford TFR with a
squawk from Waco Approach, which is routinely granted for the outer 20
mile
donut of the TFR. It's kind of like a Class B.

Well it's a bit worse than that. You need the squawk but you must also
have
a flight plan on file. No VFR "cold-call" for a squawk, no pop-up IFR.

At least that the way it was a few months ago... I've been filing all my
flights IFR lately, partially for that reason...

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ