"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
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Ok. I was going from Milwaukee to Indianapolis: KMWC to KEYE (I think -
Indy Exec).


EYE is Eagle Creek Airpark, Indianapolis Executive Airport is TYQ.



I filed VORs starting with LJT to DPA (DuPage). DuPage is on
the western edge of the ORD bravo. I figured this was enough
out-of-the-way of the bravo to satisfy KORD approach. I was wrong, and
have since learned that the route I was given is pretty much a preferred
route going IFR south through that airspace.


As a rule, Chicago approach doesn't do thruflights. You have to go around
them. Most singles prefer not to go around the east side due to the lake,
so if your destination is to the east you're in for a lengthy detour.

It's not enough to avoid the Class B airspace, you have to remain outside
the airspace delegated to Chicago approach and it is considerably larger
than the Class B and it is uncharted. A standard bypass routing is
RFD.V128.IKK. Were the intersections you were given on that airway?



That route involved vectors then several intersections, as I'd said. The
problem was compounded by the fact that I'm nearly certain that the tower
controller mispoke and told me that the first waypoint was D32 on the R270
from BAE. 32 miles west of BAE?! Are you kidding me?! Turns out it's
the R207, I discovered later, which obviously made much more sense. (I'm
nearly certain that she mispoke, and I didn't mis-hear, as 207 was far
closer to what I was expecting and where I was looking on the chart
initially.)


That would be JAYBE.



Other times I've been told to go direct involve uncontrolled fields with
no navaid, after I've already been vectored off-course. An example would
be going to Morey, C29, which is about 20 miles west-southwest of Madison,
KMSN. I file direct to the MSN VOR, which is on the field, but am
sometimes vectored around the airport (MSN is Class C and busy on
weekends), then instructed to go direct C29. No problem with the VFR GPS,
and obviously impossible without it. Of course, that doesn't bother me as
I'm usually fairly confident that Morey hasn't moved. :-) I've noticed
this also happens when I haven't even put "VFR GPS" in the remarks.


Had you put "VFR GPS" in the remarks for your trip to Indianapolis?

Morey is about 8 miles WSW of MSN, by the way.