Luke Scharf wrote in message ...
Rick wrote:
You mean the gunmen who were shooting at the folks trying to fix the
levee?
My brother might be down there helping out (not as a contractor), and if
he's there with someone shooting at him, I hope the police shoot the
shooters first.

Shooting back in self-defense is one thing.

That's what happened in this case.

Following the request from the Louisiana Governor[0][1] and "shooting to
kill" is another. What the hell happened to due process? Without due
process, there is no "rule of law".

Maybe the solution would be to completely eliminate all law enforcement
of
any kind, which would take care of the problems you're concerned about.

No, the constitution must followed. Looters should be arrested as per
established procedure, read their rights, and tried for the crime that
they are alleged to have committed.

Please document for me that that is not being done.

The rule of law cannot exist if the government gives up on due process
and starts "shooting to kill"[0].

I think that phrase does not mean what you think it means.

The National Guard doesn't have any
authority to go around the constitution

Please document for me that that is being done.

-- especially since every member
is sworn to defend the constitution. If the government doesn't hold up
it's end of the constitutional bargain, then this country stands for
nothing.

-Luke


[0]
http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...ondsNews&story
ID=2005-09-02T030459Z_01_N01575002_RTRIDST_0_WEATHER-KATRINA-KILL.XML
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/weather_k....ZdVotXZctMgMu
86XKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Govern..._shoot_kill_hu
rricane_survivor_ho_0901.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...9/s1451906.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...763266,00.html
http://news.indiainfo.com/2005/09/02...-violence.html


[1] Sorry I mis-attributed the quote. Sounds like a Bushism, but Google
says that it isn't.

No, it doesn't sound like a Bushism, it sounds like a soundbite fragment
that is resounding throughout the echo chamber, unimpeded by context and
background. Do you honestly think that the Guard troops have had no training
in the legalities of the rules of engagement? Do you honestly think that
those rules and the orders issued were designed with no regard for the law
and the constitution? Do you honestly think...actually that's the problem. I
don't believe that you are thinking this through, honestly or not. Maybe you
could do some research on the full statements by the Governor, the orders
issued, and the training that the Guard receives.

I'm glad you're not in charge.

- Rick