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Old April 14th 06, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
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Default The F14 vs what we are doing now

In article .com,
"Typhoon502" wrote:

John Carrier wrote:
Tomcats couldn't even shoot AIM-120.

That's a misleading statement.

There is no inherent reason that F-14's could not carry and shoot AIM-120.
It's just that the Navy decided it wasn't worth it.
The F-14 has a long range missile. Why spend money integrating a new
missile on an airframe that's going to go out of service soon?

The changes that would be needed were largely software and flight test.


Yep. Chump change and the aircraft could have had a vastly superior weapon
than Sparrow for a decade. Also better than Phoenix out to AAMRAM's max
range as well. In hindsight it didn't matter ... largely because the
aircraft was underutilized in Desert Storm, its last opportunity to fight
the good fight.


Maybe the changes were small in scale, but if the service is unwilling
to do the integration, then that still means the F-14 was wholly
incapable of using the DOD's best AAM; the fact that the Navy didn't
incorporate AMRAAM while they were doing the Bombcat work is what's
surprising. I read once a discussion or article about the F-14 and the
Super Hornet and how Grumman kept coming back to the Pentagon with
modernized Tomcats, and kept getting shown the door. At what point did
the Pentagon (or the Navy specifically...it's been a while since I
recalled the particulars) really decide that they didn't want the
Tomcats around? Was it cost & complexity that turned them against the
F-14 in favor of the Super Bug?


Once the F/A-18 demonstrated it's avionics reliability in a production
configuration, the F-14 was doomed.
I do have some insight into this as I worked both the F-18's APG-65 radar
and the F-14's APG-71 radar (on the D). I also participated in several
Tomcat upgrade proposals from the radar side, so I'm pretty familiar with
both sides of the arguement.
The F-14D was a great preforming aircraft, but even after the radar upgrade
it was still a maintenance hog on other systems, about 4X per flight hour
greater than the F/A-18.

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Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur