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Old October 2nd 06, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Is every touchdown a stall?

A normal approach is at 1.5 Vs until on final approach to
allow for maneuvering flight. Once on final, where bank
angles will be less than 15 degrees, with little effect on
stall speed/load factor, speed will be 1.3 Vs until
beginning the flare or round out. Actual touchdown will
happen at 1.1 to 1.01 Vs. On really short fields that are
not "soft" actually stalling at 1 to 2 feet AGL and dropping
it in is well within the design limits of the landing gear
and wing.

Real airplanes and real simulators "care" about such
details, desktop PC games and simulators don't, which is why
you can log take-offs and landings in an airplane or a $20
million full motion/visual sim.



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James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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| Mxsmanic wrote:
|
|
| You don't need to stall the aircraft to descend. It can
fly and
| descend at the same time. If you do this above a
runway, you end up
| landing. If the rate of descent is gentle, you land
very gently.
|
| It's easy to "land" with a minimum rate of descent by
carrying extra
| power. This is however, not advisable. As I pointed out
earlier
| you're going to have to disapate that energy (and may not
be able to
| before you run out of runway). Further, you'll have a
lower pitch
| attitude and in most planes it's the mains you want to
take the
| brunt of the landing force with, not the nosewheel.
|
| Flying into the ground with excess energy is *NOT* good
technique.
|
|
| As I understand it, a stall is a sudden change in the
aerodynamics of
| the aircraft.
|
| Your understanding is as usual, incorrect.
| This would be all the more true
| under rough landing conditions, when you need to have
precise control
| of the aircraft at all times. Y It doesn't sound like
something you'd want when you are
| only a few feet above the runway. es, I can see how
you'd need a longer
| runway, but if you're in a small aircraft, very often
you have runway
| to spare, anyway.
|
| Again you persist to think that stalls somehow destroy
controllability,
| which is not the case.
|
| I don't know if my techniques are valid, but I seem to
be having more
| luck with safe landings since I started watching
airspeed carefully to
| avoid anything like a stall.
|
|
| No you have had good luck playing games on the computer.
You have
| not demoonstrated squat with regard to airplanes.