Danny, you are correct when you say the actual deviation from 1 G is
small for climbs, but small isn't good enough. I wanted what we trained
in the sciences would call 1, an integer, not 1.00. The problem I could
not resolve in entering a climb is not getting the airplane to pitch up
30 degrees and maintaining 1 g into the seat -- it just has to
decelerate to do that. I just don't seem to have the degrees of freedom
that are needed.

Some - Mx is an example -- don't quite understand how to do the
analysis, and would rather argue than show where the math I cited is in
error. Too bad, it could have been a learning experience for them.

Do take a look at the neat family of curves in the citation: it's
interesting stuff, and guess what? If the equations of motion are
solved in closed form, G is 1, into the seat.



On Jan 5, 5:53 pm, "Danny Deger" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in messagenews:bfftp2t07l335t5qr0s08dsdb80vjr1bnt@4ax .com...

Tony writes:

Ah, but if you are capable of the task, you can apply some classical
physics to the information provided in the archive and do the analysis
yourself.

Acceleration is a change in velocity. Climbing from the ground (or
from any constant altitude) is a change in vertical velocity (since
the initial rate of climb is zero). Therefore climbing involves
acceleration. G forces are nothing more than acceleration. Therefore
climbing changes G forces. QED.You are correct, but for typical climbing and decending the amount of G away
from 1 is so small that as a pilot it is still "1". Entering a climb or a
decent moves a G meter such a small amount, you can't see the needle move
and you can't feel the small difference in the seat of your pants. There
are small G changes in a barrel roll, but not enough to really feel. As a
pilot, the manuever is called "1 G". Keep in mind this is in comparison
with other aerobatic manuevers that go to routinely 3 to 10 Gs.

Danny Deger