On Jul 5, 8:44 pm, buttman wrote:
On Jul 5, 6:23 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:



Unless you are willing to lie on your FAA Form 8500-8, your state's records
don't matter. The question is very plain:" History of (1) any conviction
involving driving while intoxicated..."

They mean just that..."any". You are not allowed to leave anything out.

...unless your record was expunged.

If it got erased from your record, it never happened. Thats the whole
point of going through the trouble of getting your record erased.


No...not so much. The FAA is fairly clear on this. If you have a DWI
no matter what has happened to it in the past you need to tell them
that this has happened....you can explain it as it has been expunged
etc.

But you will risk airman certificate action if they find out
independtly that you have had a DWI and did not inform them. Those
words were chosen very carefully for that.

Call up any FSDO and ask that question and you will I believe get that
response.

I know of at least two airline pilots who are doing something else
because they lost their certificates in just such a manner.

In both cases while the state in question had expunged the conviction
because of "time"...other evidence was developed in a legal manner by
federal law enforcement officers which pointed to a DWI and the FAA
did not hesitate in initiating certificate action.

Robert