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Old March 16th 08, 12:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob F.
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The term "coffin corner" has the term "critical mach" in the formula. I've
never been at critical mach at such a low altitude. A little to fast for an
approach. So now you're telling me that the term "coffin corner" has been
high jacked to mean something different. Wouldn't be the first time!

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BobF.
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Bob F. wrote:
WrongO againO. The "coffin corner" is an altitude (point on a chart
where the stall speed and Mach come together) with a max power setting.
If you go faster, you get mach buffet. If you go to slow, you stall.
If you reduce power setting, you stall. If you nose over to recover, you
mach buffet. With your example I can see why you're confused.

I'm not confused and neither are you. :-))

The coffin corner YOU are describing can be found in the flight envelope
of the U2 (as well as other airplanes) at high altitude cruise. The coffin
corner I'm describing can be found on a dragged in approach AT LOW
ALTITUDE with the aircraft behind where the flight test community defines
the area of reverse command; that being below the airspeed for maximum
endurance. The corner is reached as you get the airplane low enough on the
approach where the sink rate can't be stopped with power as maximum is
already applied. The ONLY way out of the corner is to reduce angle of
attack. If the proximity between the aircraft and the ground won't allow
that angle of attack reduction, you hve what we call the "coffin corner".

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Dudley Henriques