On Jun 13, 4:10*pm, Andy wrote:
On Jun 13, 8:44*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

This post repeatedly implies the SSA issues contest IDs to gliders.
Can we please get the basic facts right --

Nor once in my post do I make any reference to SSA issuing contest
ID's to gliders..

Please read it more carefully before you post comment!

Your post was largely about contest numbers *for gliders*, you stated
that you are worried about bringing a glider here because the SSA
could have issued the same contest number and therefore your glider's
contest number won't be unique. It's painful to keep saying this, but
I will -- the SSA does not issue contest numbers to gliders. None nada
zilch. So, even if cross NAC uniqueness might every be an issue, which
it is not, it just does not make sense to talk about a conflict
between unique NAC assigned Contest IDs for gliders since the SSA does
not issue Contest IDs for gliders.

An SSA issued Contest ID is invalid as a Glider ID for any badge or
record flight claim. I believe you do understanding this, but your
writing about in a way that is not clear and implies to a reader that
the SSA does issues contest IDs to gliders. And the root issue here is
that many people don't get the subtle issue around Glider ID and
Contest ID so yes I'm being overly picky on that clarity.

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And recapping the real issue, again, I'm fine with a rule that says
the SSA issued Contest ID is not to be used when a Glider ID is
required (because well, it is just not a Glider ID, no argument from
me there) - but we need some common sense approach here with the IGC
agreeing to allow something like just letting the OO have a way of
noting a correction from an incorrect Contest ID or pilot name entered
into an electronic flight recorder. The OO witnessed what glider the
pilot flew, simply allow the Glider ID (and pilot name if also messed
up) header data to be overridden (but obviously not any declared turn
points) post flight by a note from the OO -- that solves this problem
and others and introduces no additional practical issues. For world
records etc. I have less sympathy for pilots who do not read and
understand the rules in minute details, but at least for badges, time
for some sanity.

Darryl