On 9/04/2013 23:18, Don Johnstone wrote:
....snippage...
What I have taken from this thread is that there are several loyal
customers who will support W&W even if they are wrong and their loyalty
will not be shaken. I have to question if they are really actting in the
best interests of W&W or the soaring community in general.

Actually Don, in supporting Tim, I didn't give a damn about the soaring
community in general and I haven't any view whatever about his policy on
sales ads because I don't have a glider to sell. I simply saw a bully -
Sean - attacking somebody for no reason and I didn't like it. I have
had dealings with Tim and I'm not going to see him viciously and
unjustifiedly abused without coming to his defence.

Sean continues to do it. Most of his garbage is properly called abuse
or taunting. He is about the nastiest piece of work I've read on ras.

...I would have
thought an early resolution to this thread was in everyones interest.

All that's needed to 'resolve'; it is for Sean to stop his unprompted
attacks. His attacks appear several times a day whether anybody else
has written or not. They are entirely unprovoked. Tim Mara has no
relationship with Sean yet is continually attacked. For example, this
was the entire content of a post from Sean on April 6:

"Tim, oh Tim? Where are you? Still under your desk? What's your policy?"

Nobody can have a reasonable discussion with somebody who writes that
sort of elementary school taunting.

The past is done and cannot be undone but the future can be changed.
Clarity harms no-one.
Only W&W can put a stop to the speculation

No, Don. Nobody can stop Sean. He is quite obsessive in his behaviour.
His postings on this topic are obsessive: 5 on April 1st, 5 on 2nd, 9
on April 3rd, 3 on 5th, 4 on 6th, 7th and 9th and 3 on 8th April. He
began a glider sales page on Facebook simply to spite Tim Mara who he's
never even met. Any response from Tim will simply make it all begin
again. This is simply bullying and abuse from a mentally unbalanced
person and a response from Tim would just produce further attacks.

Look at the same obsessive and irrational behaviour with his endless
postings about attitude information being available during competitions.
He showed the same lack of a sense of proportion and lack of
self-control with his vast number of postings on that topic. Many of
them were only semi-coherent and a sentence or two of logical argument
was rapidly followed by large slabs of personal abuse of posters who he
decided were his 'enemy'. Even when nobody else responded, he continued
to gnaw at that issue like a dog returning to its vomit. On four
occasions he posted that he'd stop pursuing the issue but started it
again a few days later. He twice apologised for his over-the-top
language but each time he could not let it go and came back within a
week. The issue itself was quite trivial but Sean elevated it to World
War 3.

No, Don. Nobody can hold a reasonable conversation with Sean.

GC