I do not dislike Tim at all. I have purchased stuff from Tim. I have never listed anything for sale on W&W and would not if told I must not post elsewhere. I dislike his policy and the attacks on the thread originator. That bugged me. I don't mind the attacks, threats, nastiness against me at all. Those folks are all already ****ed about my arguments for FAI, club class, artificial horizons, etc. For me there is nothing to lose ;-). I have plenty of friends. If someone wants to hold a grudge for whatever reason, it's there problem.

Tim is fine personally. I have no issue and am sure that he is friendly when things are going his way. He should, however, man up on this policy by clearly stating it on his website for all considering submission of an ad to see (or end the policy and consider apologizing wherever necessary).

I think it's clear that his policy (behind close doors and privately with his customers) is actually "exclusivity or hit the road pal." I don't think that is debatable other than the complete lack of any information about it at all EVEN AFTER NUMEROUS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY TIM REQUESTING THAT THEY REMOVE ALL ADS FROM OTHER SOARING WEB SITES OR BE REMOVED FROM WINGS AND WHEELS IMMEDIATELY.

And I think it is safe to assume that many existing sailplane owners would NOT appreciate being expected to only place their ad exclusively on wings and wheels (or else). Tim's inner circle of close friends will defend him with threats and name calling. Tim is 100% innocent and anyone saying otherwise is an a--hole, etc, etc, etc, etc. I fully understand their panic. Again, I am pretty happy with my position that the original poster of this thread was telling the absolute truth about his experience with Wings and Wheels. And that the attacks he endured by Tim's proxy were blind, uninformed and plain wrong.

I will continue making these points, defending Bob and have zero regrets for doing so. Informing those in the marketplace of the W&W policies. To me it's just a simple, docile discussion about a business policy and how (and why) it is communicated in the way that it is now (hidden, secretive).

It's the other side of the discussion that is getting increasingly nasty and frustrated with the consistency of my argument.

Sean
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