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Old March 5th 14, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Stall/spin and ground reference maneuvers

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:58:56 AM UTC-8, John Carlyle wrote:

I just don't know if making people aware of peripheral vision changes is the way forward. Isn't it better to get them to focus only on what matters for the few seconds that are needed in a low altitude turn?

Visual perception is certainly not the only thing. I do think it is how most pilots interpolate between references to the airspeed and yaw string. Generally that scan cycle is a pretty rapid loop and wandering into stall/spin is not a big risk. I do believe that pilots get into trouble because, for one reason or another, they: 1) don't update the scan, 2) misinterpret what the instruments are telling them or 3) fail to act. I'd bet that #1 is the main thing - possibly due to distraction, fixation, overload or other reasons. When this happens your central and peripheral vision (and your inner ear) are how you maintain attitude and airspeed and that can drift, but also can be fooled if the visual cues are different than what you get 99% of the time when you are flying above a couple hundred feet. Why is this important to know? Because if you know and train to recognize that the cues will push to towards a skidding turn that is too slow you have a better chance of checking yourself before you do something based on instincts honed by flying at altitude that down low can kill you.

I do not know how strong these effects are but a ride with a competent check pilot/instructor might be able to inform how strong the tendency is.

That's my theory anyway.

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