Oshkosh gate admission on Sunday 24th?

Can somebody confirm that "free admission" assertion for ALL the volunteers?
I don't think that is correct. I think the "officers" (chair, vice chair,
etc.) get some sort of perk, but not ALL the volunteers.

Jim



"David J. Zera" *remove wrote in message
...


Sounds like an interesting thing to do. What sort of free time do you
get, and it does give you free admission, right?

well....you can put in as little or a much as you want.....

Dave J. Zera
Co-Chairman
Safety / Flight line

"free" admission is earned for the following year after working 20 hours.
--
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
Can somebody confirm that "free admission" assertion for ALL the
volunteers? I don't think that is correct. I think the "officers" (chair,
vice chair, etc.) get some sort of perk, but not ALL the volunteers.

Jim



"David J. Zera" *remove wrote in message
...


Sounds like an interesting thing to do. What sort of free time do you
get, and it does give you free admission, right?

well....you can put in as little or a much as you want.....

Dave J. Zera
Co-Chairman
Safety / Flight line

Thank you, sir. I knew there was SOME sort of comp, but couldn't remember
what it was.

Jim



"Cy Galley" wrote in message
news:QATxe.129013$nG6.113956@attbi_s22...


"free" admission is earned for the following year after working 20 hours.

Jim,

Yes you are correct. The perks are earned for the next year. as an example I
put in about 110 hours of time on the job during my time in and I have
earned a couple of perks. will a guy that puts in 8 hours a convention get
the same level no. but all of the FLS volunteers do get to see how things
are from the inside and they do get to get off their feet.

From what I have seen from around the grounds all of the groups have some
sort of incentive program that you can get involved with once you become a
volunteer.


"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
Can somebody confirm that "free admission" assertion for ALL the
volunteers? I don't think that is correct. I think the "officers" (chair,
vice chair, etc.) get some sort of perk, but not ALL the volunteers.

Jim



"David J. Zera" *remove wrote in message
...


Sounds like an interesting thing to do. What sort of free time do you
get, and it does give you free admission, right?

well....you can put in as little or a much as you want.....

Dave J. Zera
Co-Chairman
Safety / Flight line

I have to second Cy, from time to time I have taken out an Gator and if I
seen someone in need of help
I and the rest of the team would help them out. just flag us down and we
will help
you out. I have taken dozens of people to different places of the convention
at all times of the day and night.


What is a gator?

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:09:46 -0500, John T
wrote:

I've never gotten a free admission, but then I don't think I've worked
20 hours either. About the only thing I've been given is a volunteer patch.
I've heard conflicting stories about what it takes to earn the volunteer
patch. When I worked flight line safety, it was said 16 hours, but I've
recieved a patch all but one year regardless of number of hours when
I've volunteered.

I usually get the weeklong wristband anyway.

John

The EAA is unbelievable. If someone donates any of thier free time for
them, they should be given a week pass for the current show without
question.

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:08:05 -0400, Joe Camp wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:09:46 -0500, John T
wrote:

I've never gotten a free admission, but then I don't think I've worked
20 hours either. About the only thing I've been given is a volunteer patch.
I've heard conflicting stories about what it takes to earn the volunteer
patch. When I worked flight line safety, it was said 16 hours, but I've
recieved a patch all but one year regardless of number of hours when
I've volunteered.

I usually get the weeklong wristband anyway.

John

The EAA is unbelievable. If someone donates any of thier free time for
them, they should be given a week pass for the current show without
question.

"Any of their free time"? Like, if I take 10 seconds out of my busy day and
pick up a piece of trash at the entry point, I should get free admission?

I can see EAA's logic. If they gave free admission for the current show, it's
quite possible that they'd have problems having enough volunteers towards the
end of the week. There'd be some of folks putting in 20 hours or so on the
setup weekend, then not doing anything at all during the main part of the show
'cause they already got their free ride.

Seems like their policy is aimed the right way; getting a group of folks who
come back and volunteer in later years. Volunteer in 2005, put your 20 hours
in, get free admission in 2006. Come in free in 2006, and while you're there
anyway, put in a couple hours per day volunteering so you can get free admission
the year after that, too.

None of these shows are possible without the volunteer cadre. I think EAA knows
that if they seriously start shafting them, the Board of Directors will be out
picking up trash themselves. :-)

Ron Wanttaja

Cool!
Hey I am more then willing to try just about anything once,...even had to
fly on a CH-53D when I was in the Corps....somewhere there should be a law
about helos folding !!!!!
I refer to the "weedwacker" as such, not because I don't think it would
be fun, just that is what the sound reminds me of when one flies by...the
old two stroke thing Who knows, with all the travels I am doing to get
this sport pilot thing done, I may just end up your way one day! Just got
back from Waynesville , Ohio about 5pm.
As more and more people find out about sport pilot, that is the biggest
problem...the general public does not know of it's existance! Instructors
need to advertise! I can't tell you all the emails I get from people asking
about where can they go fly? Who is training sport pilots? Interest is out
there,..just not many places are opening their doors yet. Those that have
are doing very well, from what I can see.
Not saying the training is where your money making is all at. but think
of the money to be made with sport pilot type planes? Maybe build some of
those J3 kittens and such? I don't see myself buying an ultralight, but I
may consider the J3 kitten because it looks like an airplane
The Champ I flew on Saturday I waited for a month to get it booked for me,
just a grass field airport and the Cub and Champ barely got re-fueled and
were off again!!
No tower, no radio just good old grass field flying, and the parking lot was
full of cars. Don't see that at the county airport where I live

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech



Weedwackers eh ?

Sounds like you need an ultralight ride bad !

I like the open, don't care for cross countries, could own most any
plane i wanted, but I like the quicksilver clones i personally build
from scratch,,,,,,,,,

I do enjoy instructing but find the FnAA programs to not produce the
quality of pilot my own haphazzard methods produce.

Not sure, but you've agreed with several of my points,,,,,,,,,

stop by my place for some fun, and if you keep a straight face when we
get back, it's free,,,,,,,,,

and BTW, I don't make my money giving ul lessons at 55 an hour,,,,,,,,
--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

"Any of their free time"? Like, if I take 10 seconds out of my busy day and
pick up a piece of trash at the entry point, I should get free admission?

I can see EAA's logic. If they gave free admission for the current show, it's
quite possible that they'd have problems having enough volunteers towards the
end of the week. There'd be some of folks putting in 20 hours or so on the
setup weekend, then not doing anything at all during the main part of the show
'cause they already got their free ride.

Seems like their policy is aimed the right way; getting a group of folks who
come back and volunteer in later years. Volunteer in 2005, put your 20 hours
in, get free admission in 2006. Come in free in 2006, and while you're there
anyway, put in a couple hours per day volunteering so you can get free admission
the year after that, too.

None of these shows are possible without the volunteer cadre. I think EAA knows
that if they seriously start shafting them, the Board of Directors will be out
picking up trash themselves. :-)

Ron Wanttaja

I guess some of us value our free time more than others. How do you
figure that allowing a more generous policy towards volunteers is
shafting them? I value my time, what you do with yours is your
business. Once I spend the time and money to go to an event like
Oshkosh, I want to roam around it freely to suit myself. But if I were
to volunteer my precious time there, I'd want more than to be given a
free pass for next years show, after working all week during the
present one. You are way too protective of EAA's policies. What did
you do, appoint yourself their goodwill ambassador? regardless of the
fairness of their policies?

"Joe Camp" wrote

I guess some of us value our free time more than others.

Laa-te-daa!

Once I spend the time and money to go to an event like
Oshkosh, I want to roam around it freely to suit myself.

Still plenty of time to do that, if you go and spend 2 or 3 hours per day,
working.

But if I were
to volunteer my precious time there, I'd want more than to be given a
free pass for next years show, after working all week during the
present one.

IMHO, you are missing part of the point. When you volunteer, you get to be
a part of it, that gives more satisfaction (to me) than you can imagine.
Shoot, I can't wait to go and work. That is part of the best part of the
week.

You are way too protective of EAA's policies. What did
you do, appoint yourself their goodwill ambassador? regardless of the
fairness of their policies?

Lighten up, huh? He has voiced his opinion, and you, yours. That is what
this is all about.

I like to volunteer; you don't, so don't! No big deal!
--
Jim in NC