Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:


You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.


I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

You mean the one who threw the moneychangers out of the temple?

Matt

Jay Honeck wrote:
[...] And, don't forget, you've got 14 guys and
gals seated behind you, working radar and weapons systems, most with no
view outside, so you can't yank and crank TOO hard or you'll have
barf-covered equipment from stem to stern.

Heh, in my experience, military pilots aren't that concerned about us
people in back :-) If they need to yank and bank, that's what they'll
do.

The Spectres are scary to troops on the ground. I remember in the
desert one time, I could vaguely hear something above. No lights on
the plane, of course, and no moon that night either. We were hunkered
down, and I was on guard duty. Suddenly I saw a mesa nearby light up,
just like you see in Close Encounters, with a beam from nowhere. It
lasted maybe a second.

A minute or so later, our mesa got lit the same way. For one short
moment, you could read a newspaper. Your hair goes up on the back of
your neck, I can tell you.

Can't say if it's true or not, but the story goes that if they read
your name on your BDUs, then they call down and you get into trouble
for being too exposed :-)

Kev
(ex-SSGT,USASA)

Wow Larry, it only took the very next post for you to take the thread
off-topic commenting on none of Jay's aviation-related questions. I
hope you're not angling to become a moderator of THIS group...



Larry Dighera wrote:
On 11 Jan 2007 07:59:31 -0800, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com:

The recent obliteration of the Somali chapter of Al Queda by an AC-130
gunship (See http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

Sadly, your assertion about obliteration is not true. From what I've
heard so far, only _ONE_ confirmed Al Queda member has been killed
despite over 100 deaths there at the hands of the US military
presumably under orders of their commander, the eriadite Mr. Bush. :-(

Welcome to World War III.

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

It seems to me that we "turned the other cheek" too many times in the
past: Lebanon, Khobar Towers, Mogadishu, the embassy bombings, the USS
Cole, etc.

IMHO, you have to "turn the other cheek" only once. If he hits you
again, you flatten him, which is long overdue.

"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jay Honeck wrote:
[...] And, don't forget, you've got 14 guys and
gals seated behind you, working radar and weapons systems, most with no
view outside, so you can't yank and crank TOO hard or you'll have
barf-covered equipment from stem to stern.

Heh, in my experience, military pilots aren't that concerned about us
people in back :-) If they need to yank and bank, that's what they'll
do.

The Spectres are scary to troops on the ground. I remember in the
desert one time, I could vaguely hear something above. No lights on
the plane, of course, and no moon that night either. We were hunkered
down, and I was on guard duty. Suddenly I saw a mesa nearby light up,
just like you see in Close Encounters, with a beam from nowhere. It
lasted maybe a second.

A minute or so later, our mesa got lit the same way. For one short
moment, you could read a newspaper. Your hair goes up on the back of
your neck, I can tell you.

Can't say if it's true or not, but the story goes that if they read
your name on your BDUs, then they call down and you get into trouble
for being too exposed :-)

Kev
(ex-SSGT,USASA)

Interesting that you mention this...

I recall attending an airshow somwhere several years ago and being told by
an AC-130 crewperson that the fire-control system not only knows where to
shoot but also knows where *not* to shoot.

Jay B

("Christopher Campbell wrote)
And above all, try taking a course on cultural tolerance.


I don't have a wife in this fight...
(Oh, come on. That's funny)

....but, it seems to me, not picking on you Mormie, people tend to turn the
volume up to 11 (immediately) when confronted. There is a distinct lack of
"proportionality"(?) going on these days - everywhere. "You diss'd my
shoes" - BANG!

Bigoted? Hate?

How about silly and confused? That might show some tolerance for Larry's
....culture. I don't even want to know. g

http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon013.htm
This is all new to me. This was the most "interesting" of the Google
returns.

And to think, my entire elementary school had to eat fish sticks on Friday
because of us Catholic kids. Hehehe.

My plan for New Orleans - 2005:
Send in the National Guard?
Hell no. We're sending in the Mormons!
(It would halve cost 1/10th as much and gotten 10 times the results!)


MontBlack and MontWhite :-) (-:
For the record: I am 100% in favor of polygamy ...and good luck to those
brave souls who try it.
(I call it: A Lawyer's Paradise)

"Matt Whiting" wrote

I assume that the C-130 pilots have a little help with this maneuver, but
I don't know for sure how they do this.

I read that the gooney bird pilots had a fighter plane gun sight aimed out
the left window. They used bank angle to move the strike point up and down,
and rudder to move the impacts left and right.

I'll bet they have "a little" more sophisticated method, now. g
--
Jim in NC

Fuel-air bombs or MOAB mix a gaseous or powdered explosive
with air in a cloud and then the cloud is detonated.

It is conventional and not nuclear. But it may have a
kiloton rating.



"Jose" wrote in message
t...
| Is that the so-called "fuel-air" bomb, like they used in
the movie
| "Outbreak"?
|
| I don't know. I thought it was conventional explosives.
|
| Jose
| --
| He who laughs, lasts.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Truth is what ever you believe, facts are what is real.



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
| On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:26 -0800, Christopher Campbell
| wrote in
|
2007011116522627544-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:
|
| On 2007-01-11 16:49:26 -0800, Larry Dighera
said:
|
| On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher
Campbell
| wrote in
|
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:
|
| You might want to think about some of the idiocy you
and the rest of
| the extreme left are spouting.
|
| I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as
I understand
| them to be.
|
| It is you who should consider the words of a wise man
who's quoted
| throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"
|
| Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They
are polygamists
| who believe their special underwear is fundamental to
their faith. :-)
|
| I see. You are also a bigot. Hate any other religious
groups or races?
|
| If you infer hate in what I wrote, that says more about
you than me.
| I just speak the truth.
|
| You just can't face the truth. Think about it for a
while. Perhaps
| when your anger subsides, you'll see that my comments are
_factual_.
|
| Yours, on the other hand, are the _subjective_ opinions.
|
|

Jay Honeck wrote:
How'd you do it? Is there an autopilot
that holds you in a constant turn during an attack run, or is it all
hand-flown?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay

If you can fly to commercial standards you should be able to perform
the maneuver in question: Pylon turns.

The rest is just relative: size of the craft, airspeed, etc. A pylon
turn is a pylon turn. Add to that the night vision equipment and a
"gunsight" mounted on the pilots left side for maintaining the ground
reference point.

Not saying its child play, but its certainly not superman stuff either.
However, keep in mind that the average person in civilian life doesn't
have to worry about ground fire being returned.

Dave