Low fuel emergency in DFW

Nomen Nescio writes:

Here's what happens when someone confuses MSFS with the real
world.

I was talking about the real world, not simulation.

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Nomen Nescio writes:

Again, you miss the point.
Try this. Same scenario as above but the tanks are dry and the engines
dead. Glide ratio is 10:1. No wind.
Airport B can be considered to be just as close as airport A.

If the tanks are dry, it's not the same scenario as above.

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Nomen Nescio writes:

I know.
That's what makes you so pathetic.

Why does talking about the real world make me pathetic? I thought it was
talking about simulation that irritated people so much. Or perhaps it's
neither?

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Nomen Nescio writes:

I still can't figure out if you're a troll or functionally retarded.

Perhaps because the possibilities are not limited to either/or.

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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:40:25 -0800, Rich Ahrens wrote
(in article ):

C J Campbell wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:58:09 -0800, Mike Schumann wrote
(in article ):

I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is
also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after he
declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to a
closer airport.

Mike Schumann

Also, the closest airport is not necessarily the easiest one to land at. He
had to descend. An airport right underneath him might have been excessively
dangerous even if it had 10,000' runway. The 777 is not a Cessna, where you
can just circle over a patch of grass and land.

And while the point is still valid, it was a 757, not a 777.


I thought it actually was an HK-1, and Elvis was the pilot.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Nomen Nescio writes:

I still can't figure out if you're a troll or functionally retarded.

Perhaps because the possibilities are not limited to either/or.

True - quite likely he's both...

C J Campbell wrote:
The pilot declared low fuel.

Well that's it then isn't it. That allowed him to get priority handling
with no fruther delays. And that's what he got.

Pilots still are shy about saying something is an emergency, but a low
fuel declaration is something specific and not an emergency(yet).

John

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
e.com...
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:58:09 -0800, Mike Schumann wrote
(in article ):

I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is
also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after he
declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to a
closer airport.

Mike Schumann

He already had an emergency. He had just left DFW and still had the charts
out for it. Maybe landing at a less familiar field without adequate
preparation was too big a risk in his opinion.

This is an excellent point. In this case the pilot would need to tell ATC
"unable" on the other two runways and tell them the straight-in to 17 is
required.

Danny Deger

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Nomen Nescio writes:

I know.
That's what makes you so pathetic.

Why does talking about the real world make me pathetic? I thought it was
talking about simulation that irritated people so much. Or perhaps it's
neither?

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I think the point is at a busy airport the taxiways are often crowded with
aircraft waiting for takeoff.

Danny Deger
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
The tapes were part of the report. ATC was wrong, no question about it.

And for everyone speculating, here's the news report in question:

http://tinyurl.com/24jjaz

(There's a brief ad in front of the report.) The video includes audio
clips of the radio traffic. Interesting coincidence that the station's
call sign is WFAA.

Only egregious error I see in the reporting is the graphic at the
beginning that contains an arrow from Dallas to Tulsa, rather than the
reverse.

Thanks for the link. The supervisor should be fired in my opinion.

Danny Deger