About Stall Psychology and Pilots

On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest aerobatic
airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and similarly
describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics' (+5-2)
and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force one to
fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are slower they
are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me who need time to
notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?
Ken :-).

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:40579f93-e593-
:

On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest aerobatic
airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and
similarly
describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics' (+
5-2)
and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force one
to
fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are slower
they
are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me who need time
to
notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?

Sorry Ken, but steel tube construction is too dangerous for you to be
playing with.




Bertie

"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in news:40579f93-e593-
:

On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest aerobatic
airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and similarly
describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics' (+5-2)
and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force one to
fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are slower they
are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me who need time to
notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?
Ken :-).








Your mommy letting you play with the computer again Kenny boi?

Benjamin Dover wrote in
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"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
news:40579f93-e593-
:

On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest aerobatic
airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and
similarly describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics'
(+5-2) and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force
one to fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are
slower they are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me
who need time to notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?
Ken :-).








Your mommy letting you play with the computer again Kenny
boi?


I think he's actualy using one at MacDonalds.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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Benjamin Dover wrote in
:

"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
news:40579f93-e593-
:

On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest aerobatic
airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and
similarly describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics'
(+5-2) and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force
one to fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are
slower they are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me
who need time to notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?
Ken :-).








Your mommy letting you play with the computer again Kenny
boi?


I think he's actualy using one at MacDonalds.


Bertie


Kenny boi has his daily tryst with MXSmoron there. When they are
done, they plot their next attempt at subtracting from the sum total of
human knowledge.

On Feb 18, 5:45*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WJRFlyBoy wrote :

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction the
ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me that's what
you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as well and unless
you're making a gross correction you'd never notice the difference. I
guess it comes from a *naval notion of the rudder being the primary
control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS JAX
and spending time with the NAS and I get the same conversations.

No reason why it wouldn't work just as well! As long as you're co-
ordinated.


I hadn't thought of that, but how would you line up with a x-wind for
landing... Is it that the undercarts are so strong they really don
care that much?

Cheers

"Blueskies" wrote in message
...
"Al G" wrote in message
...


What I don't understand, is how anyone can get through life without a
few snap rolls.

What better way to demonstrate to a student; it is over before they
can complain.

Al G


What is a snap roll, except for a horizontal spin. I like the brits name
for them tho'....flick rolls...pretty much describes it!


Exactly. These folks were talking about altitude loss in a spin. I was
thinking "Whatever for?"

Al G

Benjamin Dover wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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Benjamin Dover wrote in
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"Ken ****head Tucker" wrote in
news:40579f93-e593-
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On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Private" wrote :





"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. ..
but it's a Citabria being restored I'm waiting to fly.
It's an honest old airplane. It's been around in one form or
another since WW2.

Bertie

I'm looking forward to flying it. It's not the sexiest
aerobatic airplane, but they're good fun..

Bertie

Somehow I am not surprised, I am also a big Citabria fan and
similarly describe them as 'honest'.

IMHO they are best described as capable of 'limited areobatics'
(+5-2) and their aerobatics are not severe or particularly 'high
performance'. However the slower roll rate and low power force
one to fly more elegant aerobatics and because the maneuvers are
slower they are good training aircraft for slow thinkers like me
who need time to notice what is happening.

Exactly.



What model?

KCAB

Bertie

Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?
Ken :-).








Your mommy letting you play with the computer again Kenny
boi?


I think he's actualy using one at MacDonalds.


Bertie


Kenny boi has his daily tryst with MXSmoron there. When they
are
done, they plot their next attempt at subtracting from the sum total
of human knowledge.



Looks like they#re winning


Bertie

WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 18, 5:45*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WJRFlyBoy wrote
innews:1n9us0sjivjdo$.1fyiah
:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:30:49 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I noticed that ex-navy guys
never stepped on the ball, they moved the stick in the direction
the ball needed to go. I asked one about this and he told me
that's what you do to co-ordinate! Interesting. It works just as
well and unless you're making a gross correction you'd never
notice the difference. I guess it comes from a *naval notion of
the rudder being the primary control or something..

Holy ****, I thought it was me and my newbieness. I am working NAS
JAX and spending time with the NAS and I get the same
conversations.

No reason why it wouldn't work just as well! As long as you're co-
ordinated.


I hadn't thought of that, but how would you line up with a x-wind for
landing... Is it that the undercarts are so strong they really don
care that much?


They just do this to center the ball. It's a six of one, half dozen of the
other type of thing. Nothing to do with crossing the controls for a
landing. Presumably they do that the same way as anyone else.


Bertie

On Feb 18, 12:13 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:40579f93-e593-
....
Speakin' of honesty [LOL], would our bertie care to
provide pix of his alledged enterprise? (that's not
forged), or is it Top Secret, like the rest of your crap?

Sorry Ken, but steel tube construction is too dangerous for you to be
playing with.
Bertie

We nailed you little bertie, you a big fake!
I knew it right off the bat....plonk.
Ken