Bush AWOL Story - New theory comes to light

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You are aware that most everything Clarke has said has been
collaborated, right?

I am aware that there are discrepancies between Clarke's book and some
of
his other actions and writings.

Which have been thoroughly explained, and completely ignored by the
rightards.

Have they? I am aware that Clarke has attempted to explain away his
stories,
but as I recall, some of his previous statements are in direct
contradiction
to his book. Either he was lying then, or he is lying now. Please explain.

Frist is about to unseal some Senate testimony clarke made in direct
contradiction of his 9-11 committee testimony. Can you say, "perjury"?

Leslie Swartz wrote:

And you think "Iran/Contra" was what, exactly?

A criminal act.

I'm interested from a purely clinical point of view- you know, like trying
to determine exactly what "Bush tried to steal the election" means in terms
of a psychosis.

Steve Swartz

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Chad Irby wrote:

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...and if he had, it would be in his records (which have already
been
released), clearly and unequivocally.

Not all his records were released.

His discharge papers were. A failed HRP would be right in there, and
next to impossible to erase.

Since it is not, it's hogwash.

Right. I mean, after all, someone like George W. Bush could never get
someone in the government to do him any favors.

Not at that level. Tampering with HRP documents is the sort of thing
that would get you some prison time.

Let's be real here.

During Reagan/Bush Sr. we had Iran/Contra.

How many people went to prison over that?

It's a simple matter to have someone doctor, or remove, documentation
from any branch of the government.

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Leslie Swartz wrote:

Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Give Terry M. and the boys my best- see you in November.

Steve Swartz

Who the **** are you Steve or Leslie?

Whichever it is, you're no more than a troll.

A very poor one at that.

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Tempest wrote:

Let's be real here.

If we were being "real," this whole silly story would have died
about four years back.


Why is that Kerry's statements to congress in 1971 are of critical
importance

Becuase his statement, based upon what was proven to be horsecrap
(i.e, the "Winter Soldier Investigation") is a documented fact.

but Bush AWOL

Unsubstantiated (despite repeated efforts by many to prove it);
there is a fifference between a fact and an unsubstantiated claim.


Actually, the refutations are unsubstantiated.

Thank goodness you are not responsible for justice in this nation; I
presume your approach is "guilty until proven innocent"?

Signed progress report from his CO and a denial of transfer request from
personel headquarters. Nothing offered in refutation of these official
documents. Find me a court in this nation where that's not a closed case.

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the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
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Tempest wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:

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Tempest wrote:

I heard hundreds of people wanting to kill Clinton, with the means and
opportunity.

What was I supposed to do, call the law every time I heard about it?

Actually, yes, if you thought it was a credible threat.

If you knew "hundreds" of people like that, you need a new set of
friends.

Those hundreds of people were not my friends.

They were Pentagon employees, all the way up the chain.

So... now you're imagining hundreds of Pentagon employees, conspiring to
kill someone. You say you "heard" them conspiring to kill Clinton, yet
didn't report it to anyone (the Secret Service would have been
fascinated).

Or, on the other hand, you're just insane.

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Leslie Swartz wrote:

And you think "Iran/Contra" was what, exactly?

A criminal act.

What is Clarke's perjury?

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Leslie Swartz wrote:

Dear Anonymous Smear Poster:

Give Terry M. and the boys my best- see you in November.

Steve Swartz

Who the **** are you Steve or Leslie?

Whichever it is, you're no more than a troll.

You have the nerve pest troll.

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Leslie Swartz wrote:

And you think "Iran/Contra" was what, exactly?

A criminal act.

What is Clarke's perjury?

Cool! Bring on the perjury charges and the trial. Let's start next week or
the summer at the latest! I can't wait to see Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice,
Powell, etc. testifying UNDER OATH in a court of Law concerning his
testimony!

Indeed, considering the consequences there's no way Clarke will be charged
with perjury.

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Tempest wrote:

What documents disprove the Bush story?

There's a lot of documents that prove Bush went AWOL.

Official government documents.

www.awolbush.com

Funny... anyone who knows anything about how USAF paperwork is worded
and used will see that he served his time, and didn't get into any
trouble. The site authors seem to have trouble wit hteh phrase
"inactive reserves" and the concept of "exigencies of service."

The authors of that site did a lot of backflips to try and pretend that
he did something wrong, but it's not in the documents at that site.

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Leslie Swartz wrote:

And you think "Iran/Contra" was what, exactly?

A criminal act.

What is Clarke's perjury?

I knew it was going to happen.

Clinton's Penis has been replaced by Clarke's Perjury.

Just once I'd like to see a rightard stick to the subject of a thread.

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...and if he had, it would be in his records
(which have already been
released), clearly and unequivocally.

Since it is not, it's hogwash.

Why would an ANG unit, in the old Air Defense
Command, have a SIOP
comitment?

I think the storys hogwash from that agle.

The Deuce had the capability to carry a nuclear
tipped missile (AIM 27, I
believe), and if President Bush's Unit was tasked
with this weapon, then the
President would have had to be on PRP. Personally,
I believe that AIM 27s
had long since been withdrawn from service.


The weapon was the AIM-26A Falcon. Not sure if the ANG ever had that
weapon,
but they did have the AIR-2A Genie.

Yeah I know, the last model of the F89 that my Dad flew was the "J" and
to
my knowledge, it's only weapon was the Genie.

I believe if you check into it, you will find the later Scorpions also had
the capability of carrying and firing the AIM-4 Falcons; earlier models
carried 2.75 inch FFAR's.

According to this link, the "J" carried both the AIM 4 and the AIR 2A.

http://www.pimaair.org/Acftdatapics/nor_f89.htm