LX 9000 or CNII?

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:32:17 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:08:58 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

Dan,

I can't help with unzipping - sorry (I haven't owned any Windows more
recent than Win95) - except to say that there are a number of FOSS (Free
Open Source) zip programs.

The Linux version has an automated install that assumes that Perl is
already installed and that a C++ compiler is available in case some
speed-
boosting code needs to be recompiled - this is SOP for most Linux
programs that are not part of the Linux distribution you're running.

The README file in the ZIP archive says that support, a forum and bug
reporting are all available at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpligc/support

The manual (in the ZIP) says that it needs Perl 5 with the Perl/TK
module plus Gnuplot (a Perl drawing module). It also says that, if there
are no downloads for your OS than you'll need a to have a C/C++. Well,
the only download is for all operating systems, so unless you have a
C/C++ compiler installed and know how to use it, I suggest you forget
about GPLIGC for a while.

Meanwhile, while checking the website, I've just seen that I'm two
releases out of date and that GPLIGC has now been extended to handle
variable-barrel tasks (which I need) so I've just added updating it to
my todo list.

Begging GPLIGC's pardon: there *are* windows downloads, but there are a
bit hidden. You can find them he

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpli...es/GPLIGC/1.9/

Download the version that best suits your hardware and Windows version.
The 'src' version is only useful if you have a C/C++ compiler


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gregorie. | Essex, UK
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Thanks Martin,

Maybe I'll turn it over to my wife. She was a programmer for many years
until wising up and becoming a systems engineer (now retired). :-D

On 11/16/2015 2:32 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:08:58 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the warnings
about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a risk
anymore?). Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it. Windows 8.1 is
such a pain in the ass...

Dan,

I can't help with unzipping - sorry (I haven't owned any Windows more
recent than Win95) - except to say that there are a number of FOSS (Free
Open Source) zip programs.

The Linux version has an automated install that assumes that Perl is
already installed and that a C++ compiler is available in case some speed-
boosting code needs to be recompiled - this is SOP for most Linux
programs that are not part of the Linux distribution you're running.

The README file in the ZIP archive says that support, a forum and bug
reporting are all available at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpligc/support

The manual (in the ZIP) says that it needs Perl 5 with the Perl/TK module
plus Gnuplot (a Perl drawing module). It also says that, if there are no
downloads for your OS than you'll need a to have a C/C++. Well, the only
download is for all operating systems, so unless you have a C/C++
compiler installed and know how to use it, I suggest you forget about
GPLIGC for a while.

Meanwhile, while checking the website, I've just seen that I'm two
releases out of date and that GPLIGC has now been extended to handle
variable-barrel tasks (which I need) so I've just added updating it to my
todo list.



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Dan, 5J

Hi Dan

The unzipping part is simple, just click on the zipped file and the file manager will show you the contents of the zipped archive, highlight and copy those files into a directory(folder) of your choice. Windows will unzip the files an route. Bill will accept your apology anytime you are ready .

Cheers

Paul


On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 02:09:04 UTC+10, Dan Marotta wrote:
I've downloaded the GPLIGC zip file and have gotten past the
warnings about zip files being dangerous (won't someone ever take a
risk anymore?).* Now I've got to figure out how to unzip it.*
Windows 8.1 is such a pain in the ass...




On 11/15/2015 12:05 PM, Martin Gregorie
wrote:



On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:29:54 -0800, John Carlyle wrote:



Finishing my prematurely posted comment:

Martin,

If you're a fortunate soul who "gets" Linux, then I'm sure GPLIGC is a
good thing for you. Most people I know just get overwhelmed by all of
the jargon and seek the simplicity of Windows. GPLIGC does have a
Windows version, but at a minimum one needs to load PERL. That's a show
stopper for me...



I've been a Linux user since 1998 and using UNIX and similar systems
since 1984, so I do that stuff without thinking about it. I don't
remember whether I've used Perl under Windows or not.

GPLIGC by and large 'just works', though its interface and command set
aren't exactly intuitive and I'll admit raising a few feature requests
against it, but it will keep me happy for the coming season and its price
is certainly right!







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Dan, 5J

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:30:11 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:

Thanks Martin,

Maybe I'll turn it over to my wife. She was a programmer for many years
until wising up and becoming a systems engineer (now retired). :-D

Dan, last night I got GPLIGC version 1.pre10 running - so far it looks
good, though as its effectively a beta release you might want to stick to
release 1.9

pre10 can only be built from source, so needs a C/C++ compiler. The only
problem I had was not understanding the way the OpenGL graphics package
is built. GPLIGC needs the GLUT utility package and it turns out that the
original version is abandonware for historical reasons, so I was stalled
until I discovered that GPLIGC uses the freeglut version. Then there was
a bijou snaggette which may be specific to RedHat Linuxes and their
clones: freeglut builds the GLUT library (which was already installed
under RedHat Fedora 22 as part of the freeglut package BUT this is only
the binary library, and to compile GPLIGC you also need the freeglut_devel
package, which is NOT installed by default - this contains the headers
etc that a compiler needs. Once I'd installed both ('dnf install
freeglut*') the compilation ran to completion and version pre10 burst
into life.

Apologies to all the non-developers on here, but I've posted the above in
the hope that it saves some head-scratching for anybody else attempting
to build GPLIGC from source.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

Zeus - I have not flown with it but based on a demo and reports it is now very equivalent to the LX9000. Now, because it started later and had catching up to do.

Two specific points of comparison -
the LX X0X0 range has more flexibility in how you setup the screens using LX Styler than the Zeus, I like this but it would not matter to pilots who use the default setup or something similar.
and the Zeus uses a logger external to the computer unit so will be much easier to arrange calibration checks.

On ease of use in flight - 2 of the things I use most often are volume and zoom, I like having dedicated knobs for these rather than the CN interface. But I am sure the CN wins of these three on ease of use without learning time.

I now have the LX Sim running on my PC and figured out how to look at
past flights. Can someone tell me - will this play back a flight or
only display the complete track as on OLC?

On 11/19/2015 4:29 AM, wrote:
Zeus - I have not flown with it but based on a demo and reports it is now very equivalent to the LX9000. Now, because it started later and had catching up to do.

Two specific points of comparison -
the LX X0X0 range has more flexibility in how you setup the screens using LX Styler than the Zeus, I like this but it would not matter to pilots who use the default setup or something similar.
and the Zeus uses a logger external to the computer unit so will be much easier to arrange calibration checks.

On ease of use in flight - 2 of the things I use most often are volume and zoom, I like having dedicated knobs for these rather than the CN interface. But I am sure the CN wins of these three on ease of use without learning time.

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Dan, 5J

Hey Dan,

It'll replay your flight.

CJ

CJ,

How? I have my igc files in the LX directories. I can scroll through
the flights and select one, but I haven't figured out how to make it
play. Also my files that I use with my XCSoar don't display terrain or
special use airspace. Some guidance there would be helpful, too!

Dan

On 11/19/2015 9:53 AM, wrote:
Hey Dan,

It'll replay your flight.

CJ

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Dan, 5J

I got it to replay one of my flights, but I don't know how I did it... :-[

On 11/19/2015 10:35 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
CJ,

How? I have my igc files in the LX directories. I can scroll through
the flights and select one, but I haven't figured out how to make it
play. Also my files that I use with my XCSoar don't display terrain
or special use airspace. Some guidance there would be helpful, too!

Dan

On 11/19/2015 9:53 AM, wrote:
Hey Dan,

It'll replay your flight.

CJ

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Dan, 5J

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Dan, 5J

File/open - i.e. an IGC file from wherever on your comouter- then press the play tab at the top of the sim.

My problem is that I've never managed to get it to display a terrain map.