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On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:39:05 -0700, 2G wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 6:00:01 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote: Dave Walsh wrote on 9/24/2020 5:11 AM: You won't need tow planes or winches when everyone has an electric self launch: everyone just has to get a lot richer. It's not a problem, our politicians have it all under control, look at how well we Europeans are doing with Brexit & Covid..... And, yes, it's raining. There is an alternative to getting a lot richer: clubs and partnerships. With just two people in a partnership, your purchase cost is one half, and you no longer have to support a tow plane or pay tow fees. If you can fly near your home, you can avoid travel and motel costs, too. The partners can fly whenever their schedule and the weather permit, and even take advantage of marginal soaring conditions without the inconvenience or expense of a retrieve, so the utilization of the glider is higher than a towed glider. So, instead of "a lot richer", you only have to be "modestly richer", and with three owners of a glider, maybe not even richer at all, especially as the used market for FES gliders increases in the next few years. A club might find an FES glider a good value, particularly if they want to encourage cross-country soaring. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ions/download- the-guide-1 That strategy has been in use since the Wright Brothers started selling aircraft, so it is not going to change anything. If an electric towplane can only make 2 launches per day you will need more towplanes and the much higher cost would have to be passed on to the same number of club members. The least exploited strategy is electric winches, since they can be run off the mains and, with a battery bank you get off-peak charging and/or to ability operate off a relatively small trailer generator. We looked at using electric winches a few years back, but dropped the idea when we found out what wiring up our usual winch points would be (we'd ideally wire up three or four, with two being at the opposite end of the runs to the clubhouse & mains supply, (we are on an ex-RAF bomber field and regularly launch on 04, 22, less frequently on 340 and occasionally on 160). We have a pair of Skylaunch winches that run on LPG. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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