A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Piloting
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

More on ZLA Radio Outage



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #1  
Old September 16th 04, 07:33 PM
A Guy Called Tyketto
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default More on ZLA Radio Outage

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1


[ More on the ZLA Outage on 14/9/04. Just to show you how bad
it REALLY could have been. This was the most accurate article
I've seen so far. -Ed ]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...faaoutage.html

Air controllers report chaos, near misses, after computer failure

ASSOCIATED PRESS

10:31 a.m. September 15, 2004


LOS ANGELES - In at least five cases, aircraft passed dangerously close to
each other after a computer failure cut off radio contact between pilots
and air traffic controllers for hours and forced the grounding of hundreds
of flights throughout the country, a union official said Wednesday.

Two flights "were almost near-mid-air collisions," said Hamid Ghaffari,
local president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association.

As planes traveled perilously close to one another, "We couldn't do
anything," Ghaffari said, based on his interviews with on-duty controllers
and a review of radar records.

"We can't do our job unless there is communication. If there are no
communications, you are helpless," he said.

On-board safety equipment that includes a collision avoidance system
allowed pilots to avoid potential disaster in the sky, he said.

"That was the hero of the night," he said.

After radio contact failed about 4:40 p.m. Tuesday at the Federal Aviation
Administration facility in Palmdale, the control room "looked like complete
chaos all over the place," Ghaffari said.

A backup computer system was activated but that also failed, he said.

Three workers filed on-the-job injury claims after becoming traumatized by
watching flights veer toward one another on radar without being able to do
anything, he said.

Under FAA "separation standards," planes are required to fly at least five
miles apart horizontally and no less than 1,000 feet vertically. In at
least five cases, that safety bubble was violated, and in two cases planes
came within about two miles of each other, Ghaffari said.

Flights across much of the country resumed late Tuesday after repairs
restored radio contact. But airports struggled to accommodate irked
passengers who were forced to wait hours to board delayed flights.

At Los Angeles International Airport, the outage brought about 400 flights
to a standstill. Two dozen flights at the Oakland International Airport and
more than a dozen at Ontario International Airport also did not depart or
arrive on time.

The delays caused a ripple effect throughout the country as planes bound
for Los Angeles and other airports were held on the ground.

In all, planes were grounded for about three hours at airports in the Los
Angeles region, northern California and parts of Nevada, Federal Aviation
Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said.

The outage began at the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center in
Palmdale. The station, located in the desert north of Los Angeles, controls
airspace for a vast region that encompasses California, Arizona, Nevada and
parts of Utah.

Control of the airspace was turned over to other air traffic control
facilities, including one in Albuquerque, N.M.

By 8 p.m. Tuesday, the FAA allowed flights to resume at 50 percent airport
capacity so the facilities wouldn't be flooded with passengers, said Nancy
Castles, a spokeswoman for Los Angeles International Airport.

Air travel reached full capacity by early Wednesday, said Diana Joubert,
an FAA operations officer.


BL.
- --
Brad Littlejohn | Email:
Unix Systems Administrator, |

Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! |
http://www.sbcglobal.net/~tyketto
PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFBSdx/yBkZmuMZ8L8RAmWQAJ4igT7PSA07tGoBcK7hk1tzGQtxtgCdF9 ax
ZDgQHOlquJegDgE9YohApMk=
=E94d
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(sorta OT) Free Ham Radio Course RST Engineering Home Built 51 January 24th 05 08:05 PM
Radio outage at ZLA grounds flights A Guy Called Tyketto Piloting 0 September 15th 04 05:56 AM
Portable XM Radio receiver in the cockpit? Peter R. Piloting 13 September 4th 04 03:46 AM
1944 Aerial War Comes to Life in Radio Play Otis Willie Military Aviation 0 March 25th 04 10:57 PM
Ham Radio In The Airplane Cy Galley Owning 23 July 8th 03 03:30 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.