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Old November 30th 05, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Daniel Roesen" wrote in message
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Hm. I'm lacking any real world experience, but in our little wannabe Sim
world (VATSIM) I'm used to crossing restrictions like "XYZ, descend FL120
(to be) level(ed) at FIX" which is to be interpreted as "start descent
now with at least 1000fpm and be at FL120 latest at FIX". This is for
Europe and confirmed to be real-world compatible by several real-world
ATC controllers here. Now I happen to like "flying" in US airspace, where
instructions like "XYZ, cross CEDES at 11000ft" are used. Is that to be
taken analogue to European interpretation to start descending to 11000ft
_now_, or to be taken as "descend 11000ft at own discretion"?


It means the pilot can begin descent at the time of his choosing and use the
descent rate of his choosing so long as he reaches 11,000 feet not later
than CEDES.



If the latter, does ATC expect a report like "leaving FL240 for 11000" if
not
explicitly requested?


No.



What is the US equivalent of the European
clearance to "descend now to X with 1000fpm or more, to be level at
FIX"? Is there any at all (short of a full "descend and maintain 11000ft,
1000fpm or more, cross CEDES at level")?


There is no equivalent standard US phraseology.


 




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