NDB Holds

Roy Smith wrote:
Blanche wrote:
Expecting (assuming) all IFR training in the US to be in aircraft
that have IFR-certified GPS is a bit unrealistic.

I guess that depends on your definition of "realistic".

I certainly think it is inappropriate, in the year 2006, to be giving
instrument training in an airplane that is not IFR GPS equipped. You
should be training people to operate in the kind of environment they are
going to be flying in after they pass their checkride. For the most part,
that means GPS. And that's going to be even more true every year that goes
by.

Would you like to pay for an IFR-certified GPS to be installed in
my cherokee? I'd be delighted, and would even buy you dinner.

I take it that you use your cherokee for instrument instruction? If that's
the case, then you should invest the capital to equip it with gear which
allows you to teach your students what they need to know. I'm afraid I
have no particular desire to fund the upgrade to your plane, however.

I'm not the teacher, I'm the student. My cherokee. And I don't have
an extra $4-8K to install an IFR-certified GPS. And the cherokee *IS*
the environment I expect to be flying after my checkride. Flying is
not my profession, nor will it be a career change.

Please, lay off the assumptions. Feel free to qualify your opinions
(and yes, they are valid but not in all situations) but make sure you
define your criteria.