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On Apr 1, 11:57 am, "Tim Mara" wrote:
the problem isn't gliders without transponders....the problem has always been flying where you shouldn't be .... I never went skin diving where they were chumming for sharks.... it's the same thing tim Please visit the Wings & Wheels website atwww.wingsandwheels.com "Mike Schumann" wrote in message .. . If you want to hurt the sport of soaring, wait till we have a mid-air with an airliner and 150 people are killed. Mike Schumann wrote in message ... On Mar 31, 8:10 pm, "BT" wrote: If you read the NPRM for ADS-B, you'll remember that you cannot even get above 10K MSL without ADS-B regardless of the aircraft, glider, balloon, lawn chair... makes no matter. So Transponders now, and ADS-B later. BT "Greg Arnold" wrote in message ... I see they want to require transponders in all gliders, with the transponders always on. Assuming transponders become mandatory in gliders, what concerns me most is that we may find that folks may not be willing to install transponders in their ships. This might be especially true in older gliders that may have a value of anywhere from $5K to perhaps $ 15 or 20K. I can see folks selling their gliders (perhaps to overseas buyers) and giving up on the sport. We are having enough trouble growing the sport and I'm afraid this could really hurt soaring in the US. Some clubs, operating on the edge, might fold as they may have to install transponders in every 1-26 and 2-33. They may be unwilling to comply, and as a result, disband. I am a realist and I do understand the concerns of the NTSB, but this potential new requirement, though not unexpected, could really have an adverse effect on soaring operations in the US......... -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com No the problem is when you really look at it there is much more traffic up there than we appreciate, and that is not just Reno but many other places. See and avoid does not work, see and estimate the traffic density does not really work either. People can underestimate the density and overestimate their safety and continue to believe they are doing a good job seeing and avoiding - pilots should try out a PCAS and it may surprise them how how much stuff they missed before. There are many places where you just can't go XC without significant exposure to GA, commercial and military traffic but many glider pilots are underestimating that traffic, live in a pilotage/VFR world, don't have a feel for traffic flow with approach/departure procedures, and without a transponder just do not fit into a radar managed traffic control system. Darryl |
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