A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

I have problem. I correct the aileron the wrong way at takeoff



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #3  
Old January 19th 09, 09:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Hoffman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 101
Default I have problem. I correct the aileron the wrong way at takeoff

bildan wrote:

I'm a big fan of Condor but wing balancing isn't one of its strong
suites due to the limited peripheral vision afforded by a computer
monitor. Many "wing leveling" problems can be traced to students not
using their peripheral vision - tunnel vision tends to develop under
the stress of a takeoff roll.


Fair enough. Though the horizon in Condor is a darn good indicator (I
just checked with mine) and you *will* know it if your wings aren't
level and likely be punished (possible ground loop, not staying behind
the towplane, etc). Seems to me that after a few hours on a sim one
will *not* have a problem with right vs left aileron. I'm not
suggesting that the horizon should always be used to check wings level
during ground roll-out. I am saying that a sim like Condor *will*
solidly teach you left-stick from right-stick.


In fact, PC flight simulators demonstrate just how hard it is to
control a glider without peripheral vision. You really need a 3-
monitor set up to use A PC flight simulator in a training environment.


I have to disagree. While 3 monitors would be nice a TrackIR device
works marvelously. Even the coolie hat switch isn't that bad, but for
serious work like coring thermals the TrackIR is the way to go.


Wing down 'no-wing runner' takeoffs are mostly a relic from 2-33's
with tip wheels and should be used sparingly. I'm not saying it's not
a skill to know but I question teaching it to a primary student
considering the glider types any new student can be expected to fly
these days. Wing down takeoffs should NEVER be used with a CG hook or
on a winch.


Who suggested 'no-wing runner'? Not I. Condor runs your wing for you.


The "simulated" ground roll practice using a glider facing into the
wind allows logging hours of practice doing something you pass through
in seconds on a real flight. I'm thinking a lot of broken fiberglass
could be avoided if all of us would spend an hour doing this each
spring.


Agreed. If you have all that readily available it seems like a fine way
to go.

I am just suggesting a simulator as a possible alternative if using that
is more convenient.

Living in Michigan it is common to not fly anything (real) from October
through April. I once had to take my flight review as my very first
flights after a long winter layover. I was complemented on how well I
kept the turns crisp and coordinated. I attributed that to "staying
current" using Condor.

I would also strongly recommend that a sim be used with rudder pedals. I
think it is a bad idea to get in the habit of using the stick without
your feet pressing the pedals properly.

Will the "simulated" ground roll practice using a glider facing into the
wind teach proper use of the rudder? Condor will.

Regards,

-Doug
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I have problem. I correct the aileron the wrong way at takeoff bildan Soaring 3 January 19th 09 08:04 PM
I have problem. I correct the aileron the wrong way at takeoff Doug Hoffman Soaring 0 January 19th 09 05:38 PM
Problem on takeoff AAS Simulators 4 September 30th 04 08:39 AM
Flap/aileron don't line up -- always a problem? Ben Jackson Owning 4 April 13th 04 01:53 AM
Takeoff with a problem? Rocky Piloting 14 January 23rd 04 02:26 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.