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Old February 28th 11, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
mike
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On Feb 28, 1:35*pm, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Feb 28, 1:18*pm, mike wrote:



On Feb 28, 7:53*am, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.


wrote:
bildan;763822 Wrote:


On Feb 27, 7:13*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
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Because its not a ASEL aircraft. What do you would think would happen
if you set loose a typical power pilot in a self launch motorglider?-


What would happen if you set him loose in a sea plane, a twin or a
jet? *It's at least arguable the skill gap between single engine land
and any of those is comparable to that between a pure glider and a
self-launcher yet they each require a specific rating.


Some motorgliders easily approach the complexity and work load of
flying a light twin.


I think Walt has a good question.


Bill Daniels


I think my point was missed. *I am not opposed to the glider pilot
having an engine, I was curious as to how one got around the ASEL
situation. *In my mind if you put an engine on and glider it becomes an
ASEL. * Take the pure motor glider with an engine hanging on the nose.
Could an ASEL pilot check out in one and fly it legally? *Perhaps a
light sport pilot could do the same? *Sure these things are gonna float
like no conventional ASEL would but I'm just asking a question. I need
to check the regs on this for myself when I get the chance but I realize
this forum contains a plethora of information.


I have a commercial rating for both airplanes and gliders so I think I
see both sides of the equation. *In my mind, the glider pilot's skill is
greater than an equivalent time ASEL type. *I learned things I never
knew and developed greater skills in flying than I had when I
transitioned from power to gliders., *But when an ASEL type want to fly
a multi, he is required to get a multi engine rating and it appears on
his license. *Same with seaplane and other different types of ratings.
I believe the endorsement is all that is required of a glider pilot for
a motor glider, am I right?


For the record I have seen a high time, highly experienced power and
glider pilot make a major blunder with his motor out. *Scared the
crappola out of me and I was standing on the ground at the time. *The
bottom line is that proper training and check outs are everything.


Walt


--
Walt Connelly


My $ .02


What makes an aircraft a motor glider is the "span loading", which
determines, more than a power source, the flight characteristics of an
aircraft.


Mike


The FAA certified Spaceship One as a glider. * Presumably this is
because it didn't have an engine and they didn't know how to certify
an aircraft with a rocket motor.

I'm not sure that it would meet your "span loading" criterion!

Mike


It is not "MY" criterion! The FAA made it "THEIR" criterion.

Mike
 




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