Kawa rough landing?

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 6:19:04 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 5:57:40 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:21:49 PM UTC-4, 5Z wrote:
IMHO, the dire warnings about poor LD on the POH are there to avoid any
liability if someone decides to sue after an engine extended mishap.

Eric and 5Z - Please don't ASSUME that all gliders are as benign as 26
with motor out and stopped. They are not. You are doing the community a
great disservice by ASSUMING that its not a big problem for some gliders.
Including types with many in service.

Please be safe out there,
Best Regards, Dave

And you are doing the community a disservice by not naming those MGs. We are, at least, speaking from first-hand knowledge and ALWAYS state the gliders that we have direct experience with.

Tom

Wow, something we both agree on Tom :-)

This started out discussing whether the extended engine on the GP14 would cause it to "plummet" if I recall some previous comments. We're providing some data points for what appears to be a similar looking pylon propeller to the GP14. The GP14 actually looks less draggy.
Now, the first generation MGs with the large and heavy engine on the pylon might be a completely different case. But we're not talking about them.

Tom 5Z

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 12:25:22 AM UTC-4, 5Z wrote:
This started out discussing whether the extended engine on the GP14 would
cause it to "plummet" if I recall some previous comments. We're providing
some data points for what appears to be a similar looking pylon propeller
to the GP14. The GP14 actually looks less draggy.

The data points you are providing are totally irrelevant to GP14.
The GP14 has no big radiator as required with gas power and a folding propeller,
though it does not close the engine-bay doors like Antares.
GP14 should be completely benign mast out and prop stopped. No plumetting.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 6:06:21 AM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
The data points you are providing are totally irrelevant to GP14.
The GP14 has no big radiator as required with gas power and a folding propeller, though it does not close the engine-bay doors like Antares.
GP14 should be completely benign mast out and prop stopped. No plumetting.

Dave you have it backwards. My data points are for what looks like an obviously more draggy engine setup. And that setup is benign. So that leads me to assume the GP14 is benign as well. But until I fly one and play with it, I really don't know.

5Z