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Notice of changes to IGC-approval levels of 11 types of FlightRecorder to take place on 1 January 2020



 
 
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Old October 21st 19, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thanks for the clarification Dan. A way to solve the problem while not making the vast majority of us older-gear-running guys buy new gear is to have a simple rule. Anyone found to be submitting a fraudulent claim should be banned from any further olc or badge/record claims as well as being banned from any contests. That would stop the deal right in its tracks.

I do have sights on national records and have an oudie igc so I am semi ok but I still like the other older recorders better since I know the proceedures for uploading n downloading tasks on them well.
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Old October 22nd 19, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Couldn’t agree with you more.... why punish the innocent ... why increase the cost of flying gliders when the numbers are shrinking! unity the person not the recorder.

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Old October 22nd 19, 04:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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There was at least one incident years ago where a single pilot flew with two recorders and submitted the same flight to the OLC and it was scored for two different clubs. I don't know whether this has happened since, but the OLC isn't as strict about recorder use as the IGC simply because the "fun" status of OLC scoring is not as important as getting an FAI approved record.. For that level of recognition, cheating should be heavily punished.

As far as the downgrading of "legacy" flight recorders goes, I can understand it, although I do not necessarily agree with it. "Hacking" a FR IGC file is reprehensible, and should be not only discouraged by banning the "hacker" from all future record attempt claims, but the widespread publication if the cheater's name and the flight circumstances. This would be subsequent to careful analysis of the evidence by the IGC and the offender's National Aero Club (NAC).

Requiring an equipment upgrade is costly to the majority of users who have no intent of ever cheating. Perhaps it is overkill, but I am not knowledgeable enough to make recommendations. Is it possible to upgrade some models of currently used recorders through firmware updates?

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Default Notice of changes to IGC-approval levels of 11 types of FlightRecorder to take place on 1 January 2020

Dennis Cavagnaro wrote on 10/22/2019 7:00 AM:
Couldn’t agree with you more.... why punish the innocent ... why increase the cost of flying gliders when the numbers are shrinking! unity the person not the recorder.


How many pilots will give up their world record dreams because their old flight
recorder can not be used for world records? Can't they sell their old recorder,
add a few hundred dollars, buy a new logger, and continue pursuing their world
record dreams? Having the right glider, and being in the right place at the right
time, seems far more costly and difficult than obtaining a suitable logger.
 




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