A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

2019 SSA Contest Rules Pilot Opinion Poll Now Open



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 29th 19, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 699
Default 2019 SSA Contest Rules Pilot Opinion Poll Now Open

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:10:49 -0700, John Foster wrote:

I can't speak for everyone in the US, but I feel it is safe to say that
real practical training for land-outs, at least in the US is very poor.
We read about the theory of it, and get verbal instruction from our
instructors on it. But it would be very seldom that it is actually done
on purpose. I believe this is largely due to the type of training
gliders most people fly here in the US--the SGS 2-33. It is a real bear
to take apart and trailer back to the gliderport after a land-out, and
would likely take a large crew of people working on it for a large part
of the day to accomplish this. As such, folks around here--at least
where I trained in WA, are very apprehensive about land-outs, and at
least with the newer generation of pilots, very inexperienced in it. Of
course, there are individual exceptions to this, but I think it is a
safe generalization to make.

In the UK the necessary training for XC flying (Navigation, Field
selection and Field Landing) tends to be done in Touring Motor Gliders,
e.g Grob G109 or Scheibe SF-25.

My club uses an SF-25 for this. With a bit of power on the SF-25
approximates an ASK-21 well enough for this exercise, so a field can be
selected and the circuit and landing approach flown, with power going on
again when either its obvious its going wrong (so try again) or its clear
the landing would be good and in a well-chosen field. None of these three
are pass/fail exercises - its normal to do them until both instructor and
student are happy.

However, I realise that this may not work for smaller US clubs - no
rentable SF-25s or G-109s in the locality would be a show stopper, along
with, quite possibly, no TMG-current instructors.

FWIW in my club its normal for a new solo pilot to fly SZD Juniors until
they have their Bronze badge, and often Silver height and duration as
well, since all these can be done with local soaring. Then they go for
Silver distance on the next suitable day after getting signed-off for
their exercises in the SF-25. I did Bronze and Silver in a Junior off the
winch and only then got my aero-tow sign-off and converted onto the
club's Pegase 90 and Discus As.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
USA Pilot Opinion Poll and Rules Committee Election Ends Sunday (Oct 18) John Godfrey (QT)[_2_] Soaring 0 October 18th 15 03:09 AM
USA Pilot Opinion Poll and Rules Committee Election Starts Now John Godfrey (QT)[_2_] Soaring 1 October 17th 15 07:49 PM
US Contest Rules Pilot Poll [email protected] Soaring 6 October 15th 12 07:12 PM
US Competition Pilot Poll and Rules Committee Election Now Open John Godfrey (QT)[_2_] Soaring 1 September 30th 11 02:59 PM
US SSA Contest Pilot Opinion Poll Ken Sorenson Soaring 19 October 6th 10 07:03 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.