Gliding risk....

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:54:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I quit reading when the data presented listed motorcycling safer than ‘gliding’. By 100%.
Hmmm.....don’t think so.
R

Since 1980ies motorcycle fatalities have increased 20x!!! These and open cockpit high CG ATVs have become the redneck population control method. States still allow these Neanderthals to ride without helmets. Now motocross, an entire whole another story, few fatalities, break every long bone, but you are in control and not at the mercy of some 20/400 vision Buick/Caddy driving nonagenarian cleared by his ophthalmologist.

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 8:33:41 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:54:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I quit reading when the data presented listed motorcycling safer than ‘gliding’. By 100%.
Hmmm.....don’t think so.
R

Since 1980ies motorcycle fatalities have increased 20x!!! These and open cockpit high CG ATVs have become the redneck population control method. States still allow these Neanderthals to ride without helmets. Now motocross, an entire whole another story, few fatalities, break every long bone, but you are in control and not at the mercy of some 20/400 vision Buick/Caddy driving nonagenarian cleared by his ophthalmologist.

It ain't rednecks dying. The motorcycle fatality increase is from yuppies and boomers getting their first bike, a Harley of course, in middle age. Motocross kids do OK, banged up no worse than playing high school football.

I grew up racing motocross in Michigan, no learning in an ASK21 in CAPat age 60..
But motocross has fatalities, tracks are much more technical and the the bikes are phenomenal. Speed is way up

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic...-in-motocross/

Not always Harleys.Â* I'd say crotch rockets are a bigger threat from my
observation.Â* I recall a young guy at work who told me he'd ridden his
super bike at 180 mph on I-81 south of Syracuse.Â* I wonder if he's still
alive...

On 11/8/2019 8:58 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 8:33:41 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:54:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I quit reading when the data presented listed motorcycling safer than ‘gliding’. By 100%.
Hmmm.....don’t think so.
R
Since 1980ies motorcycle fatalities have increased 20x!!! These and open cockpit high CG ATVs have become the redneck population control method. States still allow these Neanderthals to ride without helmets. Now motocross, an entire whole another story, few fatalities, break every long bone, but you are in control and not at the mercy of some 20/400 vision Buick/Caddy driving nonagenarian cleared by his ophthalmologist.
It ain't rednecks dying. The motorcycle fatality increase is from yuppies and boomers getting their first bike, a Harley of course, in middle age. Motocross kids do OK, banged up no worse than playing high school football.

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Dan, 5J

On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 10:52:42 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Not always Harleys.Â* I'd say crotch rockets are a bigger threat from my
observation.Â* I recall a young guy at work who told me he'd ridden his
super bike at 180 mph on I-81 south of Syracuse.Â* I wonder if he's still
alive...

Starting to ride motorcycles in middle age is definitely risky. So is starting to ride motorcycles on public roads at *any* age without first getting a good bit of experience off road and gaining muscle memory in how to handle skids and slides and maximum braking in questionable traction and how to fall off when it's inevitable. All of which is best done while you are young and pliable, but is in any event necessary at any age if you want to survive your first on-road "situation".

180 mph is pretty quick. I've never done that. I've driven a car and ridden a motorcycle at 160 mph on a public road. Not as a matter of habit -- just once each. There's no reason for it to be particularly risky if you pick the right place (straight bit of motorway without exits), time (4 AM midweek), and vehicle. And of course be sober. If it all goes wrong then 80 mph kills you just as dead.

"The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise."
-Publius Tacitus, Book XV

Some things are worth doing. Soaring is one of them.

:-D!!

On 11/10/2019 6:51 AM, wrote:
"The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise."
-Publius Tacitus, Book XV

Some things are worth doing. Soaring is one of them.

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Dan, 5J

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