Put your money where the risk is

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:16:46 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Dave Nadler wrote on 11/27/2019 6:16 AM:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 8:07:07 AM UTC-5, Tango Eight wrote:
What about tunnel vision or "momentary lapses of judgement" isn't poor airmanship?

Only someone else would exhibit "Poor Airmanship".
"A momentary lapse" or "Tunnel vision", not so much...

Be careful out there,
Best Regards, Dave

I think "poor airmanship" is such a broad term, it tells us nothing useful.
Perhaps the term "pilot error" is more specific and useful, particularly when
talking about pilots that clearly are good airman, yet have an accident. It gives
you a specific reason that you can avoid or learn to control. I think Ramy is
pointing out what we all know: all pilots make errors, and it is the margins we
use that determine the consequences of the error.

Somewhere near the start of this thread, it was posited that margins can erode
over time for a number reasons, and previously safe pilot becomes, unknowingly, an
unsafe pilot.

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"Pilot error" simply refers to the pilotage portion of airmanship. The whole idea of quoting statistics is to imply that these events are random and out of your control, which couldn't be further from the truth. My advice is if you apply good airmanship you are unlikely to become one of these statistics. For example, there IS NO reason for anyone to stall/spin turning final. This is good news.

Tom

2G wrote on 11/27/2019 6:02 PM:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 11:16:46 AM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Dave Nadler wrote on 11/27/2019 6:16 AM:
On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 8:07:07 AM UTC-5, Tango Eight wrote:
What about tunnel vision or "momentary lapses of judgement" isn't poor airmanship?

Only someone else would exhibit "Poor Airmanship".
"A momentary lapse" or "Tunnel vision", not so much...

Be careful out there,
Best Regards, Dave

I think "poor airmanship" is such a broad term, it tells us nothing useful.
Perhaps the term "pilot error" is more specific and useful, particularly when
talking about pilots that clearly are good airman, yet have an accident. It gives
you a specific reason that you can avoid or learn to control. I think Ramy is
pointing out what we all know: all pilots make errors, and it is the margins we
use that determine the consequences of the error.

Somewhere near the start of this thread, it was posited that margins can erode
over time for a number reasons, and previously safe pilot becomes, unknowingly, an
unsafe pilot.

"Pilot error" simply refers to the pilotage portion of airmanship. The whole idea of quoting statistics is to imply that these events are random and out of your control, which couldn't be further from the truth. My advice is if you apply good airmanship you are unlikely to become one of these statistics. For example, there IS NO reason for anyone to stall/spin turning final. This is good news.

I'm not sure what you mean by "pilotage", which generally refers to navigation. I
use "pilot error" more broadly than that; eg, I include misreading a weather
forecast, mistuning a radio, entering the wrong airport ID in the GPS,
over-ruddering in a turn, and generally any mistake the pilot makes during the
preparation for and the flight itself.


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- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1