Looking for pictures of motorglider failures

Thanks Eric - Can you forward this on to ASA and provide some photos?

Dave Nadler wrote on 12/7/2019 1:39 PM:
Thanks Eric - Can you forward this on to ASA and provide some photos?

Yes, I'll ask the members to help out.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

No one has mentioned jets? They can be unreliable to get started, and
there's been uncontained blade failures. Even had the engine depart the
A/C.



On 12/7/19 2:39 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
Thanks Eric - Can you forward this on to ASA and provide some photos?

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 11:46:36 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
No one has mentioned jets? They can be unreliable to get started, and
there's been uncontained blade failures. Even had the engine depart the
A/C.

Interesting, I've heard of numerous failures to start and failure to climb,
but not uncontained blade failures or engine departing AC...

HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puia_yQxir8&feature=youtu.be is
an example of a jet sustainer failure to start.Â* Good glide path
control, but I thought he may have waited a bit longer than required
before dumping his ballast.

On 12/8/2019 9:59 AM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 11:46:36 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
No one has mentioned jets? They can be unreliable to get started, and
there's been uncontained blade failures. Even had the engine depart the
A/C.
Interesting, I've heard of numerous failures to start and failure to climb,
but not uncontained blade failures or engine departing AC...

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Dan, 5J

Dan Marotta wrote on 12/8/2019 9:38 AM:
HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puia_yQxir8&feature=youtu.be is an example
of a jet sustainer failure to start.* Good glide path control, but I thought he
may have waited a bit longer than required before dumping his ballast.

On 12/8/2019 9:59 AM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 11:46:36 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
No one has mentioned jets? They can be unreliable to get started, and
there's been uncontained blade failures. Even had the engine depart the
A/C.
Interesting, I've heard of numerous failures to start and failure to climb,
but not uncontained blade failures or engine departing AC...

I'm pretty sure that qualifies as a self-launcher!


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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

Motor in a sailplane = a complicated abomination, ......

An efficient light power plane utilizing sailplane aerodynamics = beautiful engineering.,,,,

wrote on 12/8/2019 10:01 AM:
Motor in a sailplane = a complicated abomination, ......

An efficient light power plane utilizing sailplane aerodynamics = beautiful engineering.,,,,

Look at an FES sailplane - simple. Much simpler than a towplane, and much easier
to schedule when you need a launch. I was part owner of a towplane for years, and
it caused me more grief each year than the self-launcher I now own. And then there
are the avoided retrieves - simple and priceless!

Are we really having this conversation after all these years, with 80% of the
gliders going out the factory door with an engine?

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 12:01:48 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Motor in a sailplane = a complicated abomination, ......

An efficient light power plane utilizing sailplane aerodynamics = beautiful engineering.,,,,

As the Italians put it: Donna e moto amore e dolore...

He must have been a glider pilot or at least, he showed great aptitude and someone should have given him his glider-wings!

Uli
'AS'

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 12:38:56 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
HERE
is an example of a jet sustainer failure to start.Â* Good glide path
control, but I thought he may have waited a bit longer than required
before dumping his ballast.




On 12/8/2019 9:59 AM, Dave Nadler
wrote:



On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 11:46:36 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:


No one has mentioned jets? They can be unreliable to get started, and
there's been uncontained blade failures. Even had the engine depart the
A/C.


Interesting, I've heard of numerous failures to start and failure to climb,
but not uncontained blade failures or engine departing AC...





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Dan, 5J