Why did Bush join the national guard?

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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/7/2004 9:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (B2431)
Date: 9/7/2004 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
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I'll bet he saw more combat than you did and he flew C-54s.


A C-54 is not a combat aircraft. Seeing "action" implies that you have
done harm to the enemy. You can't do harm to the enemy in an unarmed

So being fired on multiple times doesn't count.
Taxiing in wearing substantial portions of your
deceased copilot and good friend doesn't count.
Having a second copilot killed during landing doesn't count.
Flying onto disputed airfields doesn't count?
Losing 20 ft of fuselage to an artillery round and flying whats
left of the airplane to Guam doesn't count?
So I guess whatever it was he was delivering under fire could not
have been that important.
Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.

I have a friend who was a C-47 driver on D-Day, dropped paras.
I guess what he did doesn't count.

A gentleman I sat next to in our town band went ashore with the
first wave on D-Day but he was only a doctor so I guess he doesn't
count.

airliner. Flying combat airccraft is one thing, Flying airliners is
something else.

Does the word tactical transport mean anything to you?
Do you know what day it is even?

IBM



There is the tip of the spear. Then there is everything else. The very
best are
at the tip of the spear. Where were you?

Then you must not have been at the "tip of the spear", being as you have
repeatedly proven to be anything but "the very best" (how can a pilot
washout call himself the "very best"?).

Brooks



Arthur Kramer

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 9/8/2004 5:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/7/2004 9:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
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(ArtKramr) wrote in
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (B2431)
Date: 9/7/2004 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
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I'll bet he saw more combat than you did and he flew C-54s.


A C-54 is not a combat aircraft. Seeing "action" implies that you have
done harm to the enemy. You can't do harm to the enemy in an unarmed

So being fired on multiple times doesn't count.
Taxiing in wearing substantial portions of your
deceased copilot and good friend doesn't count.
Having a second copilot killed during landing doesn't count.
Flying onto disputed airfields doesn't count?
Losing 20 ft of fuselage to an artillery round and flying whats
left of the airplane to Guam doesn't count?
So I guess whatever it was he was delivering under fire could not
have been that important.
Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.

I have a friend who was a C-47 driver on D-Day, dropped paras.
I guess what he did doesn't count.

A gentleman I sat next to in our town band went ashore with the
first wave on D-Day but he was only a doctor so I guess he doesn't
count.

airliner. Flying combat airccraft is one thing, Flying airliners is
something else.

Does the word tactical transport mean anything to you?
Do you know what day it is even?

IBM



There is the tip of the spear. Then there is everything else. The very
best are
at the tip of the spear. Where were you?

Then you must not have been at the "tip of the spear", being as you have
repeatedly proven to be anything but "the very best" (how can a pilot
washout call himself the "very best"?).

Brooks



Arthur Kramer



You weren't even good enough to make it to combat at all. How pathetic you are
little boy hiding under a desk while a war raged and men fought.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

From: (ArtKramr)
Date: 9/8/2004 1:43 PM Central Daylight Time
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 9/8/2004 5:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/7/2004 9:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
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(ArtKramr) wrote in
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (B2431)
Date: 9/7/2004 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
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I'll bet he saw more combat than you did and he flew C-54s.


A C-54 is not a combat aircraft. Seeing "action" implies that you have
done harm to the enemy. You can't do harm to the enemy in an unarmed

So being fired on multiple times doesn't count.
Taxiing in wearing substantial portions of your
deceased copilot and good friend doesn't count.
Having a second copilot killed during landing doesn't count.
Flying onto disputed airfields doesn't count?
Losing 20 ft of fuselage to an artillery round and flying whats
left of the airplane to Guam doesn't count?
So I guess whatever it was he was delivering under fire could not
have been that important.
Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.

I have a friend who was a C-47 driver on D-Day, dropped paras.
I guess what he did doesn't count.

A gentleman I sat next to in our town band went ashore with the
first wave on D-Day but he was only a doctor so I guess he doesn't
count.

airliner. Flying combat airccraft is one thing, Flying airliners is
something else.

Does the word tactical transport mean anything to you?
Do you know what day it is even?

IBM



There is the tip of the spear. Then there is everything else. The very
best are
at the tip of the spear. Where were you?

Then you must not have been at the "tip of the spear", being as you have
repeatedly proven to be anything but "the very best" (how can a pilot
washout call himself the "very best"?).

Brooks



Arthur Kramer



You weren't even good enough to make it to combat at all. How pathetic you
are
little boy hiding under a desk while a war raged and men fought.


Arthur Kramer


Eddie Slovik, George Lincol Rockwell, Tim McVeigh, Bennedict Arnold etc were
"good enough to make it to combat." Gee, how selective can one get?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote in
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Eddie Slovik, George Lincol Rockwell, Tim McVeigh, Bennedict Arnold
etc were "good enough to make it to combat." Gee, how selective can
one get?

Yup and ole Timmy McV got hisself a Bronze Star just like somebody
else we could mention. Only difference is, that young Tim appears
to actually have merited his award and got to keep it.

IBM

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(B2431) wrote in
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Eddie Slovik, George Lincol Rockwell, Tim McVeigh, Bennedict Arnold
etc were "good enough to make it to combat." Gee, how selective can
one get?

Yup and ole Timmy McV got hisself a Bronze Star just like somebody
else we could mention. Only difference is, that young Tim appears
to actually have merited his award and got to keep it.

The irony is that Benedict Arnold would have been a hero if the Brits
had won..

The other characters are right ****s.

raoul

IBM


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You weren't even good enough to make it to combat at all. How
pathetic you are little boy hiding under a desk while a war raged and
men fought.

Course it could be no one was foolish enough to try anything on
his watch or mine. Its not like we could go around randomly
attacking every Tom, Dhijk, and Abdool now is it?

IBM

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