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On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 03:42:55 +0000, Michael Opitz wrote:
At 23:58 18 January 2020, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:50:34 -0800, Tom BravoMike wrote: Somehow nobody objects to 'ground controlled' world records - see the Perlan project. And it is a sort of an ongoing world competition - with great expenses involved. Just a thought.. Record setting is a totally different game. No technology is ruled out and it can be individual or a group effort. I was surprised to see how high Perlan 2 was being towed since they got use of the Grob towplane, so looked at the rules for the absolute gliding altitude record. It turns out you can tow as high as you like and the flight counts as a record provided the glider climbs at least another 5000m (16350 ft) after release. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org Jim Payne has said that on some days where the stratospheric wave is working to high altitudes, the lower tropospheric waves are not working so well. To have to use lots of precious battery life and oxygen to muddle up through the lower wave system detracted from the time that they could use to focus on the high altitude objectives, so they got a tow plane that could reliably get them to the bottom of the stratospheric system without a hassle. The additional 5000 meter gain turned out not to be an issue with the heights they were able to achieve. That whole program is way out our normal frame of reference and comprehension. I had guessed that battery capacity might be a limiting factor for Perlan 2 high altitude duration, especially when you consider that cabin heat has to be battery driven, and hence might limit achievable overall height, so wasn't too surprised when they got hold of the Grob as their towplane, so thanks for confirmation that battery capacity was the driver. The one thing that did surprise me was that the absolute glider altitude record rules take the form they do and allow such high tows when all the badges (and national height records?) are for height gain above release height. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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