Future of aviation, or flash in the pan??

wrote on 1/26/2020 9:27 AM:


I know several people WA state that are happy self-launching in their Silent
Electro and miniLaks. The GP15 has been delayed, in part because they are a new
glider company, and in part due the technical difficulties of producing a high
performance, self-launching sailplane. It still has a long order list. And when
Schleicher thinks it time to enter the field, it's not the future anymore.. Call
the Schleicher dealer and place your order for one, before the list gets too long.


Eric, I did just that, requested a quote for the AS 34. Full system price with trailer delivered to the US was just under $200k. That's really a lot for a non-flapped 18 m "Standard Class" glider that was developed over 25 years ago. I don't agree with you that this is "affordable". I also heard that sales are not so hot, you can get one this summer. If they had put this into a '29 or '33 I might be interested.

Have you priced an ASH 31Mi? That will make the '34 look more affordable. Or check
out the others I mentioned: GP15, miniLAK, Silent 2 Electro - all significantly
less than the AS 34. But, I am surprised at the $200K figure. I was quoted $180K a
couple months ago, which seemed quite reasonable.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 10:32:42 PM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote on 1/26/2020 9:27 AM:


I know several people WA state that are happy self-launching in their Silent
Electro and miniLaks. The GP15 has been delayed, in part because they are a new
glider company, and in part due the technical difficulties of producing a high
performance, self-launching sailplane. It still has a long order list. And when
Schleicher thinks it time to enter the field, it's not the future anymore.. Call
the Schleicher dealer and place your order for one, before the list gets too long.


Eric, I did just that, requested a quote for the AS 34. Full system price with trailer delivered to the US was just under $200k. That's really a lot for a non-flapped 18 m "Standard Class" glider that was developed over 25 years ago. I don't agree with you that this is "affordable". I also heard that sales are not so hot, you can get one this summer. If they had put this into a '29 or '33 I might be interested.

Have you priced an ASH 31Mi? That will make the '34 look more affordable. Or check
out the others I mentioned: GP15, miniLAK, Silent 2 Electro - all significantly
less than the AS 34. But, I am surprised at the $200K figure. I was quoted $180K a
couple months ago, which seemed quite reasonable.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

Eric, my estimate includes $20k for a trailer, $10k for instruments and $4k for ocean freight.

wrote on 1/27/2020 6:48 PM:
On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 10:32:42 PM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote on 1/26/2020 9:27 AM:


I know several people WA state that are happy self-launching in their Silent
Electro and miniLaks. The GP15 has been delayed, in part because they are a new
glider company, and in part due the technical difficulties of producing a high
performance, self-launching sailplane. It still has a long order list. And when
Schleicher thinks it time to enter the field, it's not the future anymore.. Call
the Schleicher dealer and place your order for one, before the list gets too long.


Eric, I did just that, requested a quote for the AS 34. Full system price with trailer delivered to the US was just under $200k. That's really a lot for a non-flapped 18 m "Standard Class" glider that was developed over 25 years ago. I don't agree with you that this is "affordable". I also heard that sales are not so hot, you can get one this summer. If they had put this into a '29 or '33 I might be interested.

Have you priced an ASH 31Mi? That will make the '34 look more affordable. Or check
out the others I mentioned: GP15, miniLAK, Silent 2 Electro - all significantly
less than the AS 34. But, I am surprised at the $200K figure. I was quoted $180K a
couple months ago, which seemed quite reasonable.

Eric, my estimate includes $20k for a trailer, $10k for instruments and $4k for ocean freight.

The $180K I was given was for the glider, with trailer and typical instruments,
delivered to the US.


--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 6:48:25 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 10:32:42 PM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote on 1/26/2020 9:27 AM:


I know several people WA state that are happy self-launching in their Silent
Electro and miniLaks. The GP15 has been delayed, in part because they are a new
glider company, and in part due the technical difficulties of producing a high
performance, self-launching sailplane. It still has a long order list. And when
Schleicher thinks it time to enter the field, it's not the future anymore.. Call
the Schleicher dealer and place your order for one, before the list gets too long.


Eric, I did just that, requested a quote for the AS 34. Full system price with trailer delivered to the US was just under $200k. That's really a lot for a non-flapped 18 m "Standard Class" glider that was developed over 25 years ago. I don't agree with you that this is "affordable". I also heard that sales are not so hot, you can get one this summer. If they had put this into a '29 or '33 I might be interested.

Have you priced an ASH 31Mi? That will make the '34 look more affordable. Or check
out the others I mentioned: GP15, miniLAK, Silent 2 Electro - all significantly
less than the AS 34. But, I am surprised at the $200K figure. I was quoted $180K a
couple months ago, which seemed quite reasonable.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

Eric, my estimate includes $20k for a trailer, $10k for instruments and $4k for ocean freight.

I think $20K for the trailer is a bit light and $4K for ocean transport must be to East coast?