Dan Rather forges ahead

On 11 Sep 2004 22:30:08 GMT, (Tom Cervo) wrote:

Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

And, anyone who used a typewriter knows that the trick results in a
sub or super that is the same size type face as the typewriter's, not
the smaller word processor font used for sub/supers.

But, the more important questions relate to why the commander is
writing memos about pressure from a superior who retired 18 months
earlier and hence was no longer above him.

Or, why is the commander ordering Bush for a physical just two weeks
into his 90 period of eligibility? Or, since when does a squadron
commander issue orders for flight physicals (they don't!)

Or why does the commander identify a CYA memo as a CYA? If you're
really trying to cover your ass you don't point it out in the subject
line.

Or, why is the commander writing orders to a subordinate that he has
already approved for temporary posting to another state in a unit
which at the time had no airplanes to fly and over which he had no
authority?

Or, why does the commander's wife and son deny that he could type,
that he was a memo writer or that he had any problem with Lt. Bush who
he had commended very publicly on the record the year before?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
"Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights"
Both from Smithsonian Books
***www.thunderchief.org

"Ed Rasimus" wrote

But, the more important questions relate to why the commander is
writing memos about pressure from a superior who retired 18 months
earlier and hence was no longer above him.

Or, why is the commander ordering Bush for a physical just two weeks
into his 90 period of eligibility? Or, since when does a squadron
commander issue orders for flight physicals (they don't!)

Or why does the commander identify a CYA memo as a CYA? If you're
really trying to cover your ass you don't point it out in the subject
line.

Or, why is the commander writing orders to a subordinate that he has
already approved for temporary posting to another state in a unit
which at the time had no airplanes to fly and over which he had no
authority?

Or, why does the commander's wife and son deny that he could type,
that he was a memo writer or that he had any problem with Lt. Bush who
he had commended very publicly on the record the year before?

All of your points are right on the mark!

I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine. Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.

No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
news:%JM0d.23965$ni.13950@okepread01...


I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.



I give him the benefit of the doubt - he saw what he wanted to see.


No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I'm sure he has no qualms about hurting the Republican party, but I still
think it unlikely he knew.

Jarg

Subject: Dan Rather forges ahead
From: "Jarg"
Date: 9/11/2004 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: m

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
news:%JM0d.23965$ni.13950@okepread01...


I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.



I give him the benefit of the doubt - he saw what he wanted to see.


No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I'm sure he has no qualms about hurting the Republican party, but I still
think it unlikely he knew.

Jarg

Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual Neocon
spin.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual
Neocon
spin.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


And there you have it: The definitive word on document authentication from
the man who says if you were not a bomb toggeler in a B-26 in WW II ETO you
don't know anything or have the right to comment on military avation...

Jack G.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...


Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual
Neocon
spin.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Keeping the faith, eh Kramer? You really have your head in the sand.

And I'm in the mood for a laugh so would you tell us again what a Necon is?

Jarg

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Dan Rather forges ahead
From: "Jarg"
Date: 9/11/2004 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: m

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
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I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped
by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.



I give him the benefit of the doubt - he saw what he wanted to see.


No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should
have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I'm sure he has no qualms about hurting the Republican party, but I still
think it unlikely he knew.

Jarg

Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual
Neocon
spin.


Hey, what's a neocon?

From: "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
Date: 9/12/2004 10:42 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Dan Rather forges ahead
From: "Jarg"
Date: 9/11/2004 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: m

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
news:%JM0d.23965$ni.13950@okepread01...


I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped
by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.



I give him the benefit of the doubt - he saw what he wanted to see.


No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should
have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I'm sure he has no qualms about hurting the Republican party, but I still
think it unlikely he knew.

Jarg

Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual
Neocon
spin.


Hey, what's a neocon?

Art doesn't have a definition and isn't man enough to say so.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

In article %JM0d.23965$ni.13950@okepread01,
"Bob Coe" wrote:

I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries.

They're something that he desperately *wants* to believe, reasonable or
not.

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
news:%JM0d.23965$ni.13950@okepread01...
"Ed Rasimus" wrote

But, the more important questions relate to why the commander is
writing memos about pressure from a superior who retired 18 months
earlier and hence was no longer above him.

Or, why is the commander ordering Bush for a physical just two weeks
into his 90 period of eligibility? Or, since when does a squadron
commander issue orders for flight physicals (they don't!)

Or why does the commander identify a CYA memo as a CYA? If you're
really trying to cover your ass you don't point it out in the subject
line.

Or, why is the commander writing orders to a subordinate that he has
already approved for temporary posting to another state in a unit
which at the time had no airplanes to fly and over which he had no
authority?

Or, why does the commander's wife and son deny that he could type,
that he was a memo writer or that he had any problem with Lt. Bush who
he had commended very publicly on the record the year before?

All of your points are right on the mark!

I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.

No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I see only two reasons Dan Rather would have swalllowed the Rathergate
memos. One Rather is stupid, or two Rather wanted to believe them. I opt
for the the latter. Rather is a paristan democrat and is shows.

David