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Old September 13th 04, 07:56 PM
Denyav
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Your Nazi regime wasn't in power 75 years ago.

First of all Anglos made the arrangements with Kammler,another perfect example
of famous Anglo pragmatism.
It was also the Anglos who put all documents connected with German advanced
weapons development under lock for 75 years.


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Old September 14th 04, 05:53 PM
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Why is it you have never provided verifiable proof of any of your claims?


Why and how US uran production spiked suddenly and unexpectedly in June 45?
This is easily verifiable after DOE documents declassified in 90s.
You can easily prove that the extra Uran did not come from US sources.
So if this extra Uran did not come from Germany,where did it come from then?

How Dr.Alvares who was unable to design even one working ignitor for plutonium
bomb for 18 months,designed an excellent ignitor at the virtually last minute
after he inspected U-234 cargo and debriefed Dr.Schlicke,the scientific
passenger of U-234?

The Manhattan Project was the worst and most costly Anglo blunder of WWII,it
meant also a humiliation for Anglos because Germans left Anglos behind by using
only one fifth of scientific workforce.
(Germans used only one fifth of scientific personel used by MP to accomplish
identical tasks),and that was the manifestation of the superiority of Central
European Culture over more pragmatic and rentier oriented Anglo culture.

That was the main reason why German achievements during WW II needed to be
suppressed for almost one century after WWII..


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Old September 14th 04, 06:23 PM
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Denyav wrote:

How Dr.Alvares who was unable to design even one working ignitor for plutonium
bomb for 18 months,designed an excellent ignitor at the virtually last minute
after he inspected U-234 cargo and debriefed Dr.Schlicke,the scientific
passenger of U-234?


1945.1 (= Jan 1945) [U. S. A.] An ignition device for implosion
completed by Luis W. Alvarez.
http://www.ask.ne.jp/~hankaku/english/np7y.html

That was some 4 months before the U-234 episode.

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Old September 14th 04, 08:25 PM
Denyav
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1945.1 (= Jan 1945) [U. S. A.] An ignition device for implosion
completed by Luis W. Alvarez.
http://www.ask.ne.jp/~hankaku/english/np7y.html

That was some 4 months before the U-234 episode.


Actually Dr.Alvares completed not one but Three (3) ignitor designs,but none of
them were succesful.Thats the reason why I say "He was unable to produce even
one succesful ignitor design in 18 months"

The last one that delivered to test only hours before was fourth design.

Poor showing of Alvares' first three designs was very well known and documented
fact.
So everbody,including many top Manhattan Projecters were surprised by the
excellent showing of this fourth design in actual test.
After the war ,Alvares always dodged questions about this problem his answer
was always "Well.I cleaned up some wires",.
Well its of course not so simple like Dr.Alvarez made us to believe.
According to Harlow Russ,this fourth design was totally different from the
previous three and included two radical new components and according to Russ
new design these new design was completed "just in time" for trinity test which
explains why the new bomb components arrived to the test site only hours before
actual test.

Alvares' first three designs which your link refers to were so bad that
almost nobody within Manhattan Project believe in success of of Plutonium bomb
test so they concentrated on how to reclaim precious Plutonium from the test
site after failed test.
But to the surprise of the all Manhattan Projecters yield of test was four
times better than their most optimistic estimates.

Why?
Because instead of Dr.Alvarez' junk,superior German technology,or more
precisely the product of universal and eccentric genius von Ardenne, was at the
work in Trinity test site.


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Old September 14th 04, 11:19 PM
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From: (Denyav)
Date: 9/14/2004 2:25 PM Central Daylight Time
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1945.1 (= Jan 1945) [U. S. A.] An ignition device for implosion
completed by Luis W. Alvarez.
http://www.ask.ne.jp/~hankaku/english/np7y.html

That was some 4 months before the U-234 episode.


Actually Dr.Alvares completed not one but Three (3) ignitor designs,but none
of
them were succesful.Thats the reason why I say "He was unable to produce
even
one succesful ignitor design in 18 months"

The last one that delivered to test only hours before was fourth design.

Poor showing of Alvares' first three designs was very well known and
documented
fact.
So everbody,including many top Manhattan Projecters were surprised by the
excellent showing of this fourth design in actual test.
After the war ,Alvares always dodged questions about this problem his answer
was always "Well.I cleaned up some wires",.
Well its of course not so simple like Dr.Alvarez made us to believe.
According to Harlow Russ,this fourth design was totally different from the
previous three and included two radical new components and according to Russ
new design these new design was completed "just in time" for trinity test
which
explains why the new bomb components arrived to the test site only hours
before
actual test.

Alvares' first three designs which your link refers to were so bad that
almost nobody within Manhattan Project believe in success of of Plutonium
bomb
test so they concentrated on how to reclaim precious Plutonium from the test
site after failed test.
But to the surprise of the all Manhattan Projecters yield of test was four
times better than their most optimistic estimates.

Why?
Because instead of Dr.Alvarez' junk,superior German technology,or more
precisely the product of universal and eccentric genius von Ardenne, was at
the
work in Trinity test site.


Yet you still refuse to cite verifyable source.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Old September 14th 04, 07:37 PM
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You are repeating yourself without providing any proof.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


And you are repeating yourself without even checking recently released DOE
documents.
1)Where the extra Uran came from if it did not come from Germany?
From Saddams WMD stocks maybe?

2)How a scientist like Dr.Alvares who could not produce even one succesful
igniter design in previous 18 month ,suddenly designed an excellent igniter at
the very last moment after checking U-234 cargo and debriefing of Dr.Schlicke?
What was the reason of sudden IQ boost Dr.Alvares experienced?

Accept it famous Manhattan Prolect was not even able to figure out how much
uran they needed for an Uran bomb before Feb.45, and they were NEVER able to
design a succesful igniter for Plutonium bomb.

But this is an Anglo dominated country and "lmage is Everything".
So try to save the image by all means even if there is a huge difference
between the image and the reality.
 




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