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Old February 27th 20, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Agnew
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Thanks, Dave.

I was hoping you'd be able to post videos for those of us that missed the presentations.

Paul A.
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Old February 27th 20, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thank you for sharing. This was on my short list but there were so many good ones that I couldn't get to them all.
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Old February 27th 20, 01:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Shaun Wheeler wrote on 2/26/2020 6:56 PM:
Thank you for sharing. This was on my short list but there were so many good ones that I couldn't get to them all.

Dave's motorglider talk was good, but the Arcus bailout was really good. It
confirmed what I've observed over decades of soaring: if you can get out of the
glider, the parachute will work and you will survive, often without injury.
Half-humorously, if you fly a two-seater, be sure the passenger is young, strong,
and highly trained (worked for Dave)!

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Old February 27th 20, 09:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
...the parachute will work and you will survive, often without injury.


"without injury" would have been nice.
The ground training I got (from Parachute Shop, Nashua NH)
made all the difference.

If you haven't already done so:
Get proper ground training from your nearest jump school,
covering how to do an emergency jump and landing.
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Old February 27th 20, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:25:06 PM UTC-8, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 8:04:56 AM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
...the parachute will work and you will survive, often without injury.


"without injury" would have been nice.
The ground training I got (from Parachute Shop, Nashua NH)
made all the difference.

If you haven't already done so:
Get proper ground training from your nearest jump school,
covering how to do an emergency jump and landing.


Thanks Dave for the very informative presentations.
One take away is that static line will save more lives. I know of at least one recent case of a pilot who managed to bail out but did not deploy on time. Dave was one second or so from deployment to hitting the ground, you can do the math of how much time he was from hitting the ground before deployment, 0.1 second?
I never seen someone using static line in the US. I wonder why. How common is it in the rest of the world, and what procedures are used to ensure you don't deploy accidentally after landing, especially those of us who are not used to static line.

Ramy
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Old February 27th 20, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 5:08:31 PM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 1:25:06 PM UTC-8, Dave Nadler wrote:
"without injury" would have been nice.
The ground training I got (from Parachute Shop, Nashua NH)
made all the difference.

If you haven't already done so:
Get proper ground training from your nearest jump school,
covering how to do an emergency jump and landing.


Thanks Dave for the very informative presentations.


Hope it was helpful.

One take away is that static line will save more lives.
I know of at least one recent case of a pilot who managed to bail out but
did not deploy on time.


There have certainly been a few; I don't have stats.

Dave was one second or so from deployment to hitting the ground


Sorry if I wasn't clear: I was 1 second from impact when I got chute open.
I had between 7-15 seconds under canopy before impact, just enough to
grab toggles, turn into wind, and aim for the 'safer' spot I hit.

How common is it (static line) in the rest of the world...


Um, that's why all our gliders have the orange ring next to shoulder...

Most important: Get proper ground training on chute use!
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Old February 28th 20, 12:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Shaun Wheeler
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Dave, I am definitely going to go out to the skydiving place and do that. I wonder if you would indulge a question or two? After the rudder pedal slammed back at some point you applied control inputs with the stick, opposite aileron I think? Was there any back pressure on the stick at all?
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Old February 28th 20, 12:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ground training is one thing, but why not do an actual jump. I went to a parachute school and during the class introductions everyone was asked why they were there. “On a dare, my girlfriend bought this package for my birthday, want to challenge myself“ ... were the usual answers. I said I wear a parachute and I want to know how to use it! I think actually jumping is a confidence booster that will help if and when the time comes. I also think most glider pilots will enjoy it because once the canopy opens, you’re gliding!
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Old February 28th 20, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thanks for posting those, Dave! I didn't get to any of the talks.

Knowing how it feels under canopy before using an emergency chute is a very good idea.
But finding somewhere that still uses old round parachutes like most use will be a challenge.
Jim
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Old February 28th 20, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 4:40:48 AM UTC-8, Stephen Szikora wrote:
Ground training is one thing, but why not do an actual jump. I went to a parachute school and during the class introductions everyone was asked why they were there. “On a dare, my girlfriend bought this package for my birthday, want to challenge myself“ ... were the usual answers. I said I wear a parachute and I want to know how to use it! I think actually jumping is a confidence booster that will help if and when the time comes.. I also think most glider pilots will enjoy it because once the canopy opens, you’re gliding!


Because it is like practicing bleeding. Thirty- forty years ago a friend and I went through ground jump training followed by a jump. Having just had several surgeries on my left foot, I opted not to jump. My friend jumped and ended up with a broken ankle. I lost track of him after about 5 years but he was still walking with a limp.
 




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