A couple SSA 2020 convention presentations online...

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 12:26:31 PM UTC-5, Stephen Szikora wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of nonsense rationalization here. Any jump is better experience than no jump at all. If nothing else, you will learn to fly the canopy including judgung the flare on landing. Besides, anything you do in life is first practiced in “ideal� conditions (other than a first kiss!)

Nope, a lot of just-plain-nonsense period.

1) With an emergency chute there is no 'flare on landing'.
Most of these chutes pulling both toggles decreases the effective chute
diameter and increases your sink rate (as explained to me by the chute designer).
DO NOT TRY TO FLARE AN EMERGENCY CHUTE.

2) A practice jump will not be with an emergency round chute.
You will get some practice landing but it will be very different...

3) Ground school will include specifics of how to land,
practice landing jumping of a small platform, etc.
Not to mention the mechanics of chute deployment (ie push, not pull).

Please, go get the ground school.
If you want to take a jump, great, but most important is the ground school.

Hope that helps someone out there,
Best Regards, Dave

All of what Dave said is true, unless you wear a ram-air rectangular
emergency chute.Â* For me training at the sky diving club was a great
improvement over my Air Force training since that was geared to round
chutes and I now have a much more maneuverable square chute.

Dave, what do you mean by "push, not pull" on chute deployment? Assuming
you're talking about rip cord use, I'd advise pull straight down with
both hands, not straight out.

Cheers

On 2/28/2020 11:04 AM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 12:26:31 PM UTC-5, Stephen Szikora wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of nonsense rationalization here. Any jump is better experience than no jump at all. If nothing else, you will learn to fly the canopy including judgung the flare on landing. Besides, anything you do in life is first practiced in “ideal� conditions (other than a first kiss!)
Nope, a lot of just-plain-nonsense period.

1) With an emergency chute there is no 'flare on landing'.
Most of these chutes pulling both toggles decreases the effective chute
diameter and increases your sink rate (as explained to me by the chute designer).
DO NOT TRY TO FLARE AN EMERGENCY CHUTE.

2) A practice jump will not be with an emergency round chute.
You will get some practice landing but it will be very different...

3) Ground school will include specifics of how to land,
practice landing jumping of a small platform, etc.
Not to mention the mechanics of chute deployment (ie push, not pull).

Please, go get the ground school.
If you want to take a jump, great, but most important is the ground school.

Hope that helps someone out there,
Best Regards, Dave

--
Dan, 5J

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
All of what Dave said is true, unless you wear a ram-air rectangular
emergency chute.Â* For me training at the sky diving club was a great
improvement over my Air Force training since that was geared to round
chutes and I now have a much more maneuverable square chute.

Dave, what do you mean by "push, not pull" on chute deployment? Assuming
you're talking about rip cord use, I'd advise pull straight down with
both hands, not straight out.

Cheers
It has always been and still is called pulling, throwing for main parachutes, but a reserve pull is technically a push. Straight out is best combination of strength and splitting the difference of direction of cable housing. Cables are always from the top on sport gear varies on emergency rigs.
The few glider static lines I've seen clipped to the reserve handle, which isn't ideal but will work. A lot of pilot rigs cannot be reasonably modified to pull the pin from the back.

There appears to be several schools of thought on egress and deployment of an emergency canopy. Having a plan and rehearsing it regularly is the key, I believe.

I was taught to hold one hand over the D-ring as you egress (if possible) to keep it from flapping around, then grab the D-ring with both hands and punch straight out away from your chest (push/punch vs pull.)

Strong deployment training video - https://youtu.be/ccIta-dO40E

Egress procedures - https://youtu.be/hCldGXL-yYo

Why Practice video - https://youtu.be/G8QcTow7t1M

Strong Parachutes has a static line option.

Paul A.
Jupiter, FL