Soaring already DOA for the season???

At 12:55 30 March 2020, wrote:
We are already considered a pariah. Nothing new there. Even the
countries
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hat we bled and died to free treat the US like ****. Most of us dont
give
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rip what the EU or Canada or the others think about us. We do our
own
thin=
g we always have, always will. While I hear lots of US bashing I sure
dont
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see any other country out there coming to OUR aid, I dont see anyone
sendin=
g us ventilators or personal protection equipment but they sure
expect us
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o jump and run when they have a crisis.

That is actually not true, we have frequently come to your aid, and you
have come to ours. This despite dumping all that bloody tea, for which
we have yet to forgive you. We do, or most of us do, share your dislike
of the EU.

LOL well ya just gotta forgive us for that tea business, we had cut a deal on a shipload of coffee right before lol. Its just my hackles always rise when folks continually blame the ills of the world on america and our independant lifestyle.
Where is all the condemnation toward china which has given us every pandemic we’ve had the last 50 years, and who ALWAYS spins the truth about their real situation. I guess its not politically correct to point a finger at them, buts its always ok to down the usa. Thats the hypocracy that gets to me.
Dan

Please don't judge the U.S. by what a few loudmouths on this newsgroup or some of our leaders say any more than we judge other countries by what a few media outlets and politicians there say about us.

We are all in this together. About all I can add is that because the U.S. is such a vast, diverse country, the experience in some areas can be very different than in others. I live in the New York City area and have elderly parents in a health care facility in Florida and can relate very much to what is happening in, say, Italy and Spain right now.

Let people make noise. Ignore most of it. We will get through this.

Chip Bearden

Martin and my other friends, I think old England would have considered america’s founding fathers the “loudmouths� of their day, something to think about.

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 07:41:06 -0700, uneekcowgirl wrote:

Martin and my other friends, I think old England would have considered
america’s founding fathers the “loudmouths� of their day, something to
think about.

Dunno if thats quite the right term. Dissidents, certainly.

However, I don't know a lot about that time. I moved schools a lot and
ended up with sitting through several repetitions of English Mediaeval
History and was taught very little about any other time or place. Most of
what I think I know of history I learnt much later, and I know a lot more
about the region running east from Hungary to India than I do about the
Americas.

However, I did spend 18 months working in NYC in the mid '70s, with an
apartment at 3rd and 64th in Manhattan, but working out at Long Beach,
Long Island. I commuted on the LIRR, and that was definitely the best way
to organise living and working in NYC. By and large I enjoyed that,
especially after I joined the New York Skyscrapers model flying club and
had fun flying competitions around NY state and down into Maryland.


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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

wrote on 3/30/2020 6:25 AM:
LOL well ya just gotta forgive us for that tea business, we had cut a deal on a shipload of coffee right before lol. Its just my hackles always rise when folks continually blame the ills of the world on america and our independant lifestyle.
Where is all the condemnation toward china which has given us every pandemic we’ve had the last 50 years, and who ALWAYS spins the truth about their real situation. I guess its not politically correct to point a finger at them, buts its always ok to down the usa. Thats the hypocracy that gets to me.
Dan

I don't think China "gave" us the virus, which likely came from bats, and they are
the first victims; regardless, once it got to the US, it's our virus now, and our
response to it determines what happens to us. China was surprised by it, but they
have already tamped it down, while we, even with the benefit of more than a month
of warning and a quarter of the population, have not been able to do so, and we
now exceed China's cases and deaths.

I did not take any comfort in the President's statement that we will be doing a
great job if we keep the deaths to 100,000, and I think the world is wise to worry
about the virus spreading from our country.


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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

China was surprised by it, but they
have already tamped it down, while we, even with the benefit of more than a month
of warning and a quarter of the population, have not been able to do so, and we
now exceed China's cases and deaths.

And you believe the reporting coming out of the govt run china news agency?.....ah....I have some lake front property you might be interested in buying from me, I’ll make you a heck of a deal....

wrote on 3/30/2020 11:19 AM:
China was surprised by it, but they
have already tamped it down, while we, even with the benefit of more than a month
of warning and a quarter of the population, have not been able to do so, and we
now exceed China's cases and deaths.

And you believe the reporting coming out of the govt run china news agency?.....ah....I have some lake front property you might be interested in buying from me, I’ll make you a heck of a deal....

This claim is not based just on what China says, but on several other independent
sources. There are reports in newspapers, scientific publications, from the UN,
and not just in our country, but around the world. Search some of the sources you
trust.

-- .
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 13:09:47 +0000, Don Johnstone wrote:

That is actually not true, we have frequently come to your aid, and you
have come to ours. This despite dumping all that bloody tea, for which
we have yet to forgive you. We do, or most of us do, share your dislike
of the EU.

Ironically, the whole tea-dumping bit seems to have been triggered by the
misdoings of the East India Company - see Peter Frankopan's "The New Silk
Roads" for details. Its well worth reading for the light it sheds on
global history starting from the dawn of writing up to the present day.
There are much worse things you can do than to read this while we can't
fly.




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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

Real men don't drink tea, that's why we dumped it in the harbor... :-D

On 3/30/2020 7:09 AM, Don Johnstone wrote:
At 12:55 30 March 2020, wrote:
We are already considered a pariah. Nothing new there. Even the
countries
t=
hat we bled and died to free treat the US like ****. Most of us dont
give
a=
rip what the EU or Canada or the others think about us. We do our
own
thin=
g we always have, always will. While I hear lots of US bashing I sure
dont
=
see any other country out there coming to OUR aid, I dont see anyone
sendin=
g us ventilators or personal protection equipment but they sure
expect us
t=
o jump and run when they have a crisis.
That is actually not true, we have frequently come to your aid, and you
have come to ours. This despite dumping all that bloody tea, for which
we have yet to forgive you. We do, or most of us do, share your dislike
of the EU.

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Dan, 5J