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Old April 10th 20, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:03:04 -0700, John Foster wrote:

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 5:57:24 AM UTC-6, Bob Youngblood wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 4:23:10 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
After spreading your 3000 lbs of fertilizer outside, why did you go
and turn on cnn, they just filled up your house with more than 3000
lbs of “manure” in less than an hour.


Yep, I was called the other day by one of the glass gods here on RAS
and he said to me that I was narrow minded. Now don't get me wrong,
this is a good guy but a bit confused. I told him that I would look at
many different formats of communication and media and see if there was
any chance that I had become intolerant of flaming liberals. It only
took me a few seconds of watching Don Lemmon and Rachel Maddow to
realize that I was going to call Direct TV and see if I could have them
blocked. Bob


I am becoming more and more convinced that the real "enemy of the
people" is not one political party or another, but the Mainstream Media.
There have been many recent examples of them deliberately deceiving the
public to forward their narrative. 95% or more of the major news
outlets are now owned by just 6 individuals, who are all "globalists" in
their ideology.

Is that 6 owners just for the USA or globally? Its hard to tell from
where I sit because the palsied hand of Murdoch seems to have a global
grasp. In any case I thought that there tended to be laws about news
monopolies. What happened to them?




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Old April 10th 20, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Foster
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:12:11 PM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:03:04 -0700, John Foster wrote:

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 5:57:24 AM UTC-6, Bob Youngblood wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 4:23:10 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
After spreading your 3000 lbs of fertilizer outside, why did you go
and turn on cnn, they just filled up your house with more than 3000
lbs of “manure” in less than an hour.

Yep, I was called the other day by one of the glass gods here on RAS
and he said to me that I was narrow minded. Now don't get me wrong,
this is a good guy but a bit confused. I told him that I would look at
many different formats of communication and media and see if there was
any chance that I had become intolerant of flaming liberals. It only
took me a few seconds of watching Don Lemmon and Rachel Maddow to
realize that I was going to call Direct TV and see if I could have them
blocked. Bob


I am becoming more and more convinced that the real "enemy of the
people" is not one political party or another, but the Mainstream Media..
There have been many recent examples of them deliberately deceiving the
public to forward their narrative. 95% or more of the major news
outlets are now owned by just 6 individuals, who are all "globalists" in
their ideology.

Is that 6 owners just for the USA or globally? Its hard to tell from
where I sit because the palsied hand of Murdoch seems to have a global
grasp. In any case I thought that there tended to be laws about news
monopolies. What happened to them?




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Gregorie | gregorie dot org


As I understand it, it is globally. I could be wrong though.
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Old April 10th 20, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:57:57 -0700, John Foster wrote:

As I understand it, it is globally. I could be wrong though.

More likely you're right: the Murdoch clan owns more papers and TV in
more countries than seems right if news sources are to do more than
pretending to cover the whole political spectrum and keep each other
relatively truthful.

Fortunately we still have the BBC and the Independent as counterbalance
and the likes of New Scientist to cover science, which the other papers
more or less ignore.


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Old April 11th 20, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Shaun Wheeler
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:03:04 -0700, John Foster wrote:

On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 5:57:24 AM UTC-6, Bob Youngblood wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 4:23:10 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
After spreading your 3000 lbs of fertilizer outside, why did you go
and turn on cnn, they just filled up your house with more than 3000
lbs of “manure” in less than an hour.

Yep, I was called the other day by one of the glass gods here on RAS
and he said to me that I was narrow minded. Now don't get me wrong,
this is a good guy but a bit confused. I told him that I would look at
many different formats of communication and media and see if there was
any chance that I had become intolerant of flaming liberals. It only
took me a few seconds of watching Don Lemmon and Rachel Maddow to
realize that I was going to call Direct TV and see if I could have them
blocked. Bob


I am becoming more and more convinced that the real "enemy of the
people" is not one political party or another, but the Mainstream Media..
There have been many recent examples of them deliberately deceiving the
public to forward their narrative. 95% or more of the major news
outlets are now owned by just 6 individuals, who are all "globalists" in
their ideology.

Is that 6 owners just for the USA or globally? Its hard to tell from
where I sit because the palsied hand of Murdoch seems to have a global
grasp. In any case I thought that there tended to be laws about news
monopolies. What happened to them?




--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org


They only apply to conservative news outlets.

Nobody could possibly mistake the turn Murdoch enterprises took when they started selling out to Disney.
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Old April 11th 20, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:55:15 -0700, Shaun Wheeler wrote:

They only apply to conservative news outlets.

Nobody could possibly mistake the turn Murdoch enterprises took when
they started selling out to Disney.

...but Redtops have always been like that, regardless of who owned them.

The only tabloid worth reading was the much-missed "Sunday Sport".


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Old April 11th 20, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Daly[_2_]
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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:37:27 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:55:15 -0700, Shaun Wheeler wrote:

They only apply to conservative news outlets.

Nobody could possibly mistake the turn Murdoch enterprises took when
they started selling out to Disney.

..but Redtops have always been like that, regardless of who owned them.

The only tabloid worth reading was the much-missed "Sunday Sport".


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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org


Is that similar to "The Scottish Sporting News"? I picked up a copy of that on a detachment to Kinloss to educate myself on how the local football teams were doing... not much sports in it, turns out.
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Old April 11th 20, 09:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:57:52 -0700, Dan Daly wrote:

Is that similar to "The Scottish Sporting News"? I picked up a copy of
that on a detachment to Kinloss to educate myself on how the local
football teams were doing... not much sports in it, turns out.

I don't know - I've never seen "The Scottish Sporting News"

The "Sunday Sport", as I explained elsewere was pure spoot with a healthy
dollop of soft pron thrown in.

I remember it from the mid-70s when it had a short run on the news
stands. In 76/77 when I was working in NYC I brought a copy back after my
Xmas break in the UK to show to my work colleagues. It somewhat startled
the people I thought of as hard-boiled NewYorkers. It had died by 1979.

However, it seems to have been born again as a subscription online weekly
and is currently available online.

Wikipedia has a page about it, claiming that it was founded in 1986, but
it page's author seems to have never known of its former existence as ink
on newsprint.


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Old April 11th 20, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Youngblood
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On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:57:54 PM UTC-4, Dan Daly wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 2:37:27 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:55:15 -0700, Shaun Wheeler wrote:

They only apply to conservative news outlets.

Nobody could possibly mistake the turn Murdoch enterprises took when
they started selling out to Disney.

..but Redtops have always been like that, regardless of who owned them.

The only tabloid worth reading was the much-missed "Sunday Sport".


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org


Is that similar to "The Scottish Sporting News"? I picked up a copy of that on a detachment to Kinloss to educate myself on how the local football teams were doing... not much sports in it, turns out.


Scottish Sporting News, That is like kissing your sister, you could do better or you could do worse.
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Old April 12th 20, 12:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Branko Stojkovic
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Hi everyone,

Here is what I learned from all this.

When the going gets tough, people generally fall into two camps. No, not the lefties and righties camps. They fall into "how can I help the others" camp and "what's in it for me" camp.

Stay safe in the air and on the ground.

Branko
XYU
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Old April 11th 20, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_6_]
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:37:25 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

The only tabloid worth reading was the much-missed "Sunday Sport".


Apologies to non-UK readers for not explaining that the "Sunday Sport"
was 100% tongue-in cheek BS from first to last page.

Among many 'interesting' stories and racy photos I remember seeing a long
running set of stories about a B-29, that went missing during the Pacific
War, being found in a Lunar crater (with a picture, so it had to be
true). Follow-up stories covered a secret NASA mission to rescue the crew
using a Shuttle. The final story in that series described how the Shuttle
had towed the B-29 back to a landing at a secret USAF base (Groom lake?),
with a picture of B-29 and Shuttle in Earth orbit (so the rescue must
have been true too)!


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