Max Cleland is CBS source for memogate

"R. David Steele" steele.david@verizon(DOT)net/OMEGA wrote

There are those who do not even want the military voting in that
they want such a firm wall of separation between the military and
the policy making.

Hogwash. Military members pay taxes, and to not vote is food off
the table.

However, the military has become very skewed to the right due to
the draw down. As the military became smaller, mostly the
conservatives were left. Given your knowledge base, I would
assume that you have a good handle on the make up of the current
military. It should be self evident, without an need of
statistical backup, that those who serve are very socially
conservative.

Not really. Most military members feed on autocratic rule, and all
of their organizations are sociallized (medicine, supply, etc).

The reason most military members don't vote Democrat, is because
they don't like wishy-washy, and they don't like wimps, and they
don't like crooks. Military people like decision makers. Right or
wrong, they make decisions, and they make plans. Military members
like well run organizations. Kerry, for example, (under the loser
Schrum) has yet to organize a winning team.

The military has never favored the Democratic party, and not even the
so-called "New Democrats."

Military service is even more distasteful those
who are rebellious as the military (since Desert Storm) has
become very intolerant (Navy the least so) of alcohol abuse and
other social disorders. Most of the liberals in society thus
find that military service is too confiding and requires too high
a level of self discipline for their tastes.

The best Wing commanders are rebels. They are rebels for change in
areas that increase power down to the squadron level, and won't
take no for flying hour requests. Not many are really worried about
social ills, as these people are not team workers, and are of no use to
a Squadron or even a Flight. A homosexual or a drug user is not that
interested in being a warrior.

As for Clauswitz, that is at a very broad level far above what
the typical enlisted or officer would deal with. Or do you want
the military setting policy of your local school board?

I think a military operation in our state to cut school administration by
75% would improve education, and raise teachers salaries 50%.
As it is, the Democrats run the schools with their communist agenda.

From: "Bob Coe"
Date: 9/19/2004 5:37 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id: aRn3d.27260$ni.25424@okepread01

.. A homosexual or a drug user is not that
interested in being a warrior.

History doesn't bear out the first part of that statement.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote
From: "Bob Coe"

. A homosexual or a drug user is not that
interested in being a warrior.

History doesn't bear out the first part of that statement.

Not all, but most homosexuals I dealt with administratively,
wanted nothing more than the 20 year retirement. Back in the
bad old days you went from one stateside base to another, and
were basically just a civilian equivalent.

From: "Bob Coe"
Date: 9/21/2004 4:34 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id: c614d.27487$ni.2415@okepread01

"B2431" wrote
From: "Bob Coe"

. A homosexual or a drug user is not that
interested in being a warrior.

History doesn't bear out the first part of that statement.

Not all, but most homosexuals I dealt with administratively,
wanted nothing more than the 20 year retirement. Back in the
bad old days you went from one stateside base to another, and
were basically just a civilian equivalent.

I was thinking a bit more historically than that. In ancient Greece
homosexuality was common in the armies of the time.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired