Looks like you can buy a piece of Seminole

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-4, Christopher Schrader wrote:
Maybe the Owner should try to sell the assets and a reasonable degree of goodwill to a consortium at fair market value? If you can't afford to own it outright maybe you shouldn't control it or propose an impasse.

As a Florida Native I would hate to see this gliderport close its doors and become another sleepy airport community (unless it were a gliding community open to visitors).

- Chris Schrader

Chris, we would all hate to lose another flying site, and or gliderport. Probably the outright sale would be the way to go, make for a way less complicated management. I am sure that you remember the good ole days in Miami traveling up from the Keys with your dad to fly at the old Kendall Gliderport.. Not long after your flying days there off 168 street things changed and eventually closed, everyone was scrambling for a new place to fly. There was another commercial flying site in Indiantown, Bill Malone, a local aerial applicator provided tows and glider rental. The place was sold and gliders have never returned and are not welcome. Same situation at North County Airport, the glider operation was closed and never reopened. Same thing with Arcadia, and Labelle was pretty much dismantled after Tom's tragic accident.
I know that just about most old timers like myself can recall the same things happening to some of the gliderports that they once visited or flew out of. I for one have enjoyed my sailplane activity for many years, and have worked hard to carry the torch so to speak.

Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this site the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real estate experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased by all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so hard to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring Fundation should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running the place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont know ? Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 9:29:19 PM UTC-7, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this site the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real estate experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased by all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so hard to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring Fundation should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running the place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont know ? Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski

What a terrific idea - doing business with a convicted international criminal, what could go wrong?

Tom

At 04:29 05 August 2020, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this
site
the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real
estate
experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased
by
all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so
hard
to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring
Fundation
should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase
should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running
the
place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont
know ?
Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go
with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski



I believe there is a very famous gliderport in the north east which has
been for sale for quite a while, it has ridge, wave, thermal lift and the
distinction of being the launching point for many world and national
records - and owned by people who as far as I am aware have helped
develop soaring in the USA and are a honest as the day is long - so tell
me why Seminole is so special it should justify what you have proposed
above.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:45:04 AM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:
At 04:29 05 August 2020, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this
site
the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real
estate
experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased
by
all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so
hard
to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring
Fundation
should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase
should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running
the
place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont
know ?
Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go
with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski



I believe there is a very famous gliderport in the north east which has
been for sale for quite a while, it has ridge, wave, thermal lift and the
distinction of being the launching point for many world and national
records - and owned by people who as far as I am aware have helped
develop soaring in the USA and are a honest as the day is long - so tell
me why Seminole is so special it should justify what you have proposed
above.

Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December and produce some vitamin D.

Walt

Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December
and
produce some vitamin D.

Walt


lots of places you can do that -doesn't make it a great gliding site though
-
and I think in the USA there are other places with far better soaring
potential than Seminole - which is probably what you want in a 'national
soaring center'.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 8:15:05 AM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:

Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December
and
produce some vitamin D.

Walt


lots of places you can do that -doesn't make it a great gliding site though
-
and I think in the USA there are other places with far better soaring
potential than Seminole - which is probably what you want in a 'national
soaring center'.

I was making the comparison to a very famous glider port in the NE. I doubt if you can lay out in the sun, semi naked in December there. While I could care less if there was a national soaring center at SLGP the fact remains that the weather is flyable year round and the vacation advantages of the Orlando area are hard to beat. Any business that must hibernate for several months each year is unattractive. What SLGP needs is aggressive management and marketing and it will flourish. All this being said, unless the buyer is passionate about soaring there are other places in which one can put their money and receive a greater return. My guess is that Mihai is and will be stuck with the place for some time to come.

Walt

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 5:33:17 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 8:15:05 AM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:

Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December
and
produce some vitamin D.

Walt


lots of places you can do that -doesn't make it a great gliding site though
-
and I think in the USA there are other places with far better soaring
potential than Seminole - which is probably what you want in a 'national
soaring center'.

I was making the comparison to a very famous glider port in the NE. I doubt if you can lay out in the sun, semi naked in December there. While I could care less if there was a national soaring center at SLGP the fact remains that the weather is flyable year round and the vacation advantages of the Orlando area are hard to beat. Any business that must hibernate for several months each year is unattractive. What SLGP needs is aggressive management and marketing and it will flourish. All this being said, unless the buyer is passionate about soaring there are other places in which one can put their money and receive a greater return. My guess is that Mihai is and will be stuck with the place for some time to come.

Walt

Certainly as long as Google is in business and any prospective buyer has the ability to google "Mihai Tanjala"

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:10:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December and produce some vitamin D.

Walt

You can do that in PA, too plus you can do some ice-skating on that pool! It all depends on your tolerance to low temperature! ;-)

But in all seriousness - Ridge Soaring in PA is a terrific place to fly out of and I miss going there!

Uli
'AS'

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 10:37:51 AM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:10:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December and produce some vitamin D.

Walt

You can do that in PA, too plus you can do some ice-skating on that pool! It all depends on your tolerance to low temperature! ;-)

But in all seriousness - Ridge Soaring in PA is a terrific place to fly out of and I miss going there!

Uli
'AS'

I have been to PA in the winter time, I used to refuel nuclear power plants, Limerick, Beaver Valley, Susquehanna all have had shut downs in the winter for refueling. YOU might lay out semi naked in the winter but most people would prefer Central Fla.

Walt