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Old September 8th 20, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Gillis
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On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:18:08 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:41:50 AM UTC-7, AS wrote:
Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.

Uli

SPOT have changed their mapping service and formats, here is how to make a URL suitable for use at glideport.aero:-

share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
1) log in to findmespot.com
2)Maps
3)History mode
4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
5)Shared Views
6) Add shared view
7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
8) Home
9) XML Feed
10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
and you are good to go.
Worked for me!!

Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main...x/message.json
with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.

Duncan

Has anyone gotten the ADSB tracker link to work? I've tried adsb:myICAO but it doesn't seem to work.
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Old September 20th 20, 06:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bruce
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I've been trying to get Glideport to work with adsb:myICAO too and have had no luck with it. I've sent a message to support a few days ago and no answer yet. Since I have adsb I really think this is the way to do it. I seem to never remember to turn on my phone app. Has anyone been able to use this feature.

Bruce

On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 1:57:54 PM UTC-7, John Gillis wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:18:08 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:41:50 AM UTC-7, AS wrote:
Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.

Uli

SPOT have changed their mapping service and formats, here is how to make a URL suitable for use at glideport.aero:-

share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
1) log in to findmespot.com
2)Maps
3)History mode
4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
5)Shared Views
6) Add shared view
7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
8) Home
9) XML Feed
10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
and you are good to go.
Worked for me!!

Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main...x/message.json
with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.

Duncan

Has anyone gotten the ADSB tracker link to work? I've tried adsb:myICAO but it doesn't seem to work.


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Old September 20th 20, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ramy[_2_]
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As far as I know this feature was never implemented although the UI gives you this option.
I understand that there is currently no development and no support for glideport which is a shame since it begs integration with ADS-B and OGN.

Ramy
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Old September 20th 20, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nick Kennedy[_3_]
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Ramy
What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
Nick
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Old September 20th 20, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ramy[_2_]
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OGN provides instantaneous detailed trace as long as you are within range (typically up to 50 miles but can be much further)
Inreach/spot are usually every 10 minutes and can often be delayed up to 1 hour.

Ramy
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Old September 24th 20, 12:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
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On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
Ramy
What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
Nick
T


I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.
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Old September 24th 20, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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I'm trying to understand this:

Spot and InReach are both tracked by satellites, right?Â* So how is it an
improvement to have OGN, which relies on local receivers and antennae,
to receive those two trackers?Â* There will certainly not be OGN nodes
set up across the Great Basin in sufficient quantity to keep track of
gliders operating there.Â* Heck, even around Moriarty, one must fly in
covered areas to be assured of being tracked by OGN assuming he's got
Flarm installed.Â* There are enough gliders here without Flarm to assume
that they're carrying one of the tracking devices...

On 9/24/2020 5:58 AM, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
Ramy
What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
Nick
T

I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.


--
Dan, 5J
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Old September 24th 20, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Koerner
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The beauty of ADS-B and OGN coverage is the high bandwidth coverage compared to the 10 minute or so intervals employed by Spot and InReach. I do hope that the OGN folks follow through with that unified coverage plan. Importantly, I hope they also will incorporate ADS-b in that plan. I had a recent long flight over some very remote areas of northern Arizona and New Mexico and had continuous ADS-b highly detailed coverage the entire day excepting while low on initial climb out at Springerville and while low coming back to land at St Johns airport. That ADS-b coverage is now already there - there's no need to dot the wilderness with OGN receivers. ADS-b out in gliders is the new norm now; it's a pretty powerful safety feature. The long transmit intervals associated with satellite trackers are great to complement the low altitude drop-outs that happen with any ground antenna based OGN and ADS-b system. An integrated system with all modes working together is really highly desirable.
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Old September 25th 20, 01:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
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On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 10:32:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
I'm trying to understand this:

Spot and InReach are both tracked by satellites, right?Â* So how is it an
improvement to have OGN, which relies on local receivers and antennae,
to receive those two trackers?Â* There will certainly not be OGN nodes
set up across the Great Basin in sufficient quantity to keep track of
gliders operating there.Â* Heck, even around Moriarty, one must fly in
covered areas to be assured of being tracked by OGN assuming he's got
Flarm installed.Â* There are enough gliders here without Flarm to assume
that they're carrying one of the tracking devices...

On 9/24/2020 5:58 AM, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
Ramy
What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
Nick
T

I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.


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Dan, 5J


Dan,
That is not how it will work. Just as the SSA tracker gets it data through feeds from the Garmin and Spot websites, so will OGN. There is no concept of needing a ground station that listens to the raw Spot, Garmin or Iridium transmissions.
 




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