Fair Tribunals at Guantanamo? (Was: YANK CHILD ABUSERS :: another reason to kill americans abroad ???)

Jim Watt wrote:

:On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:25:37 -0700, "TinCanMan"
wrote:
:
:They are not, therefore they have no rights as POW's
:
:In the UN declaration of Human rights, which the US
urports to support it says:
:
:Article 9
:No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

And so they aren't. Nothing 'arbitrary' about it. Next?

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:28:08 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:

:On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:25:37 -0700, "TinCanMan"
wrote:
:
:They are not, therefore they have no rights as POW's
:
:In the UN declaration of Human rights, which the US
urports to support it says:
:
:Article 9
:No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

And so they aren't. Nothing 'arbitrary' about it. Next?

I appreciate you may not find the word in the McDonalds dictionary
(given away free with large fries) or on American television where
words of more than six letters are avoided to prevent confusion.

ar·bi·trary (adjective)

1. Depending on individual discretion (as of a judge)
and not fixed by law.

2.1 Not restrained or limited in the exercise of
power : ruling by absolute authority

2.2 Marked by or resulting from the unrestrained and often
tyrannical exercise of power

2.3 Using unlimited personal power without considering
other people's wishes:

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Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com

Jim Watt wrote:

:On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:28:08 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:
:
:Jim Watt wrote:
:
::On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:25:37 -0700, "TinCanMan"
wrote:
::
::They are not, therefore they have no rights as POW's
::
::In the UN declaration of Human rights, which the US
:urports to support it says:
::
::Article 9
::No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
:
:And so they aren't. Nothing 'arbitrary' about it. Next?
:
:I appreciate you may not find the word in the McDonalds dictionary
given away free with large fries) or on American television where
:words of more than six letters are avoided to prevent confusion.
:
:ar·bi·trary (adjective)
:
:1. Depending on individual discretion (as of a judge)
: and not fixed by law.

They're getting treatment (and not getting treatment) as prescribed by
both treaty and law.

:2.1 Not restrained or limited in the exercise of
: power : ruling by absolute authority

Restrained by the rules already put in place for the holding of these
folks and the conduct of their hearings.

:2.2 Marked by or resulting from the unrestrained and often
: tyrannical exercise of power

This would appear to have been the property of the folks being held,
not the folks holding them.

:2.3 Using unlimited personal power without considering
: other people's wishes:

See? Like I said. Not arbitrary.

You've proved two things he

1) You can read.

2) Your comprehension isn't up to your reading.

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territory."
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:57:44 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

Jim Watt wrote:

:On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:28:08 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:
:
:Jim Watt wrote:
:
::On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:25:37 -0700, "TinCanMan"
wrote:
::
::They are not, therefore they have no rights as POW's
::
::In the UN declaration of Human rights, which the US
:urports to support it says:
::
::Article 9
::No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
:
:And so they aren't. Nothing 'arbitrary' about it. Next?
:
:I appreciate you may not find the word in the McDonalds dictionary
given away free with large fries) or on American television where
:words of more than six letters are avoided to prevent confusion.
:
:ar·bi·trary (adjective)
:
:1. Depending on individual discretion (as of a judge)
: and not fixed by law.

They're getting treatment (and not getting treatment) as prescribed by
both treaty and law.

I believe the GC prohibits torturing prisioners to extract
information.

See? Like I said. Not arbitrary.

Strange it seems arbitary to me, indeed the reason they
are in Cuba is because your Government is anxious about the
legal basis of its grubby little operation.

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Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com