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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:45:42 -0700, Mary Shafer
wrote: Much like the United States then. When do you intend to end the military occupation of Nebraska? I mean, really: it's not as if you have a use for the place. The plans for the colonization of America were directly taken from the contemporaneous plans for colonizing Ireland. So, much like the United States, then? Or any of the other European colonising experiences, including the period after colonial polities severed ties with their European colonial governments. As it was, the relevant immediately pre-Revolutionary US experience was of a British government limiting further colonisation and expansion westwards, much to the chagrin of local land speculators and their surveyors with youthful histories of cherry-tree surgery. Colonisation continued in US history long after 1783. The colonists were, by then, English, not Anglo-Norman. Not just English, I'm afraid. Nobody in their right mind could possibly conceive of the European colonisation of America originating with the Anglo-Normans (bar Templar fantasists): my original reference was to the situation in 1170, and the fact that the Anglo-Norman "colonisation" of Ireland was not uniuque, and like most similar Norman expansion, cannot be shoe-horned into modern prejudicial concepts of "colonialism". There were probably some Welsh and Scots colonists, too, of course, There were, alongside all manner of other nationalities. Paul Revere was not descended from what might not be popularly regarded as common English stock. but the real flood of Scots followed Culloden and the Enclosure Acts. A lot of those Scots ended up in North Carolina, by the way. Like Flora MacDonald, perhaps. Remind me of which way they and the immigrant Irish jumped when the local slave-owning fatcat bigwigs started to object to central government taxation actually being actively collected for once. Gavin Bailey -- "...this level of misinformation suggests some Americans may be avoiding having an experience of cognitive dissonance." - 'Poll shows errors in beliefs on Iraq, 9/11' The Charlotte Observer, 20th June 2003 |
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