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Old February 4th 21, 03:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!
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Old February 4th 21, 07:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!


My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads
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Old February 4th 21, 08:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:59:35 PM UTC-8, Mads wrote:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads


While I agree a declared FAI triangle is the most challenging, the long out and return also deserves special recognition. For a given distance, the O&R requires you to fly the furthest from your final destination possible. Also a 1000km O&R will normally take you to different weather.
It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy
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Old February 4th 21, 11:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy


Perhaps even more insane to do a straight out and expect your friends to come and pick you up!
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Old February 4th 21, 12:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 3:20:39 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:59:35 PM UTC-8, Mads wrote:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads

While I agree a declared FAI triangle is the most challenging, the long out and return also deserves special recognition. For a given distance, the O&R requires you to fly the furthest from your final destination possible. Also a 1000km O&R will normally take you to different weather.
It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy


I would also rate the out and return as second on the list because of distance and weather, the WX component of the triangle also adds to its level of difficulty. Wind is a big factor for both O&R and triangle, a bit more so for the triangle, IMHO. The straight out is the least difficult, kind of like strapping a chimp into a rocket and saying, "Here Ya Go Joe, Enjoy The Ride".
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Old February 4th 21, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Nice one !

Le jeudi 4 février 2021 Ã* 08:59:35 UTC+1, Mads a écritÂ*:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads

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Old February 4th 21, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Just for Bob, the ASW-20 fan: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5130184 (600 km declared).

Stopped a little short of 3rd declared TP (declaration was for 650km) on this one, but got free triangle state record: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5911937

T8
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Old February 4th 21, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 11:58:56 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Just for Bob, the ASW-20 fan: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5130184 (600 km declared).

Stopped a little short of 3rd declared TP (declaration was for 650km) on this one, but got free triangle state record: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5911937

T8


Yes Evan, I am an ASW20 fan, the GOAT still performs and without one of sustainer engines. When you see a triangle like that with mostly even legs it is impressive, I do not give out many compliments, but that one gets a big compliment from me, very nice flight. The OLC comes up a bit short when scoring triangles, and I wish the purist was more heavily weighted. Nice Bloody Triangle!
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Old February 5th 21, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Should east coast triangles that use the ridge be discounted because they are easier to complete than triangles that use only thermals on all 3 sides?

Flame suit on

Lou

PS - Great flight Evan!
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Old February 5th 21, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 6:44:57 PM UTC-7, MNLou wrote:
Should east coast triangles that use the ridge be discounted because they are easier to complete than triangles that use only thermals on all 3 sides?

Flame suit on

Lou

PS - Great flight Evan!


I really don't care what kind of lift is used along any leg of a triangle, simply because the nature of an FAI triangle requires at least one upwind leg, with minimum and maximum percentages of each leg to qualify as a triangle. A 500 km ridge run with only a 20 km deviation from the flown course results in a pretty anemic FAI triangle distance. OLC scores triangles pretty much the same. If it's blowing hard enough for ridge lift to give an advantage during one leg, it is likely that one of the other legs will be into a stiff headwind. Plus, the "handicapping" of a ridge lift leg would generate enough controversy and heated blather from different know-it-all commentators that a pretty decent soaring day could be had by those hovering overhead.
 




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